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Date Registered: 12-2009
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Intercooler Vulnerability – Nudge Bars are a Necessity


After having the unfortunate experience of having my Exy reversed into last month I was advised today that my intercooler needs replacing. The below image shows a small dent caused by the other cars towball when she reversed into my car. The end result is that the intercooler was pushed back into the radiator and is unrepairable. The damage to the intercooler doesn’t look too bad. That said the other driver told police she didn’t think she damaged my car and as you can see I think she is lying.

If you own a diesel, you should have a nudge bar fitted. I have ordered mine today.

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Date Registered: 12-2008
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Sorry to hear Adam
I have thought about this in the past and while thinking the inter cooler is obviously better down low for cooler air although its times like this that you wish the exy had a top mount.

I might have to keep an eye out for one now

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Mate, we own a T30 Petrol Exy..the nudge bar paid off for us when some one reversed into the front of our car at a supermarket. No note and a massive ding.
What would have been a 2000 dollar repair to the bumper and radiator , turned into a "ding in the nudge"
ie bugger all.
Sorry for ya hassles at the moment mate...hope it sorts out


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quote:

Reddog69 wrote:
... the other driver told police she didn’t think she damaged my car ...



Let the police look for themselves and then ask that they have the other driver do an eye test emoticon
Even a blind person could "feel" the damage to the front of the car bumper and bonnet without thinking about the damage to the intercooler.

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She may have thought that was the "face-lift" T31 X-Trail model and that's the way the bumper and bonnet should look like emoticon

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 emoticonReddog69, sorry to hear about your intercooler dramas, nudge bars are good, I have one, but Mum and Dad are getting me the grille kit from the EXY shop for just this reason, my nudge bar doesn't cover my low intercooler opening, so damage can still happen, besides it will make me a Sexy EXY as well. One thing dad reckons is it will improve my intercooler performance as well, if you have air moving too quick over it the air isn't there long enough to actually draw heat out of it, so the grill will slow down the air and make it soak more heat! Dad usually lays the radiators back on a slight angle for the same reason, mine was to be done but we are going to see if the grille helps first!

Hope your Exy is all fixed and feeling better, Well I'm off to go and get Muddy again, have a great day, Augustus the X Trail emoticon

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Augustus, lick your finger and move it through the air. You can feel it cool down quicker than if it was dry?
There is a kit on the market which pretty much does the exact same thing on your intercooler. It sprays fine mist every so often to keep the intercooler wet so to improve its cooling performance.

I had one installed on my R5GTT back in the UK and I can comfortable say I felt the difference in performance.

They are not expensive either emoticon

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It's for reasons of protecting the front end is why I deliberately park with my nose in at public carparks. I also leave the towbar fitted. If some fool reverses into my towbar then that's fine, but if they reverse into your front end there's just too much that can go wrong, even with a nudge bar fitted.

The intercooler sure is in a vulnerable position. I prefer the diesel Subaru Forrester idea where it is actually mounted at the top.

Regardless of where it's fitted, you can never mitigate against idiots who don't look when manoeuvring in carparks.

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 Hi MarcoXtrailT31, we were talking about protection of the vulnerable intercooler in this thread.

I agree mist sprays work, but Dad has had a lot of high performance petrol guzzling V8s, running monster cams and always hard to cool, so by laying back the radiator a few degrees as long as there is a tight seal around it, the air flow is slowed and then more heat is transferred to the air flowing through it. It has solved overheating issues for Dad on many an occasion, so it might also work by fitting the grille kit and slowing the airflow to the intercooler. We wont know until Dad gives me my Bling and intercooler protection.

I've been chatting with many a Skyline and they reckon they make more grunt from their intercoolers once they have had grille mesh fitted.

Anyhow, I'm off to get Muddy, Augustus the X Trail emoticon
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I also leave the towbar fitted. If some fool reverses into my towbar then that's fine, but if they reverse into your front end there's just too much that can go wrong, even with a nudge bar fitted.

The intercooler sure is in a vulnerable position. I prefer the diesel Subaru Forrester idea where it is actually mounted at the top.




Firstly, it is illegal to have a towbar fitted to your vehicle if it doesn't have trailer connected to it, so expect to get a ticket for this offence sooner or later. I know a Highway Patrol member who writes out several tickets a week for this offence as a result of chasing a offender through a shopping centre and hitting his shin on a towbar as he ran around between two cars parked nose to tail. No need to guess why towbars are a pet hate of his!!

A top mounted intercooler only works efficiently when the vehicle is in motion at 80km/h speeds or more. Anything less and the intercooler can be counter productive as the heat soak from the engine will pre heat the intercooler intake air. So unless you are permanently driving at hwy speeds, a top mount is a bad idea.

If you intend to leave the city and head to the country after dark, quality driving lights are a must. With this in mind, I'd also give serious consideration to a bulbar instead of a nudge bar. The Nissan genuine nudge bar has far too much flex in the cross member, causes the driving lights to vibrate. If they have Halogen bulbs, the vibrations will cause filaments to prematurely break, not mention having to constantly annoyance of your driving light beam constantly moving with the vibrations which will give you a headache on a long journey and is also very tiring.



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