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Date Registered: 07-2008
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T31 air con not working


Blowing warm air so it sounds like a regas - unusual for a vehicle less than two years old.

Checked both cabin and engine bay fuse boxes but did not locate any that mentioned a/c.

Turning on aircon produces an impercetible increase in engine speed but cannot really hear the compressor kick in.

Any suggestions before I go in to the dealer?

John

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Date Registered: 07-2008
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Re: T31 air con not working


I would say you have either dropped your gas, or have a blockage in the pipework.

Generally speaking, a low pressure (no gas) or high pressure (blockage) will stop your compressor clutch from engaging, thats just the way aircon circuits are wired for protection of the system.

You should be able to see the clutch on the compressor engage, if you get some one to cycle the switch as you look at the compressor, with the engine running.

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Thks Dave

I did have my mate stick his head under the bonnet while I switched on/off but it is quite difficult to see the compressor let alone the clutch component. However he could not hear it so it's either gas or a blockage as you suggest.

dealer want to look at tomorrow so will update.

John

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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John,
There are 2 fuse boxes in the engine compartment.
I am 90% positive that I remember an Air con fuse in one of them. They are right next to each other.


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Re: T31 air con not working


Just found a pic in the forum regarding one of the fuse boxes and it shows an A/C COMP (compressor) fuse.
Its the red 10 amp fuse on the top R/H corner.
This could be your problem.

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Hi Tony

Thanks - I removed the intake duct and accessed these two boxes. The first at the front was a cinch, the one behind a real pain. When I unclipped the latter, the whole assembly came loose with the cover then another exercise to get off - which I did not - removing it partially showed some heatsink like devices and I thought maybe this is something else. I will have another go.

Not sure why they could not be mounted in an easier location.

John

The heatsink type devices look exactly like what is in your pic on the top LH corner.

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Hi John,
You have to unclip it and then twist it around to show the underside that you see in the picture.

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Date Registered: 07-2008
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Checked power to compressor - OK.

Dropped into the dealer this morning and their verdict - no loss of gas, supply to compressor is fine, compressor kicks in briefly and then the clutch releases.

New compressor being ordered emoticon

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Hi John,
If the compressor kicks in but then the clutch releases, then my guess is that the system might have been over-gassed or you could have a faulty expansion valve.
There is a pressure switch on the liquid tank which senses BOTH under and over-pressure so if either of the above mentioned faults happen then it registers the over-pressure and shuts off the compressor.
Have them check these before they charge (ha, no pun intended) you for a new compressor.

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Its still under warranty Kev, so let them change it I say.

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