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Date Registered: 11-2008
Location: Blakeview, Adelaide SA
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Re: Best engine with auto transmission for towing


The CVT is a 'smart transmission, it will select the best ratio based on the load it is seeing. Using the manual mode will hurt your fuel economy, using auto mode will not damage the trans and may help the fuel consumption.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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The standard auto tranny will also select a gear based on revs and load, but will still go into top gear regardless of what its towing.

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Date Registered: 06-2012
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What are the "problems" you mentioned with teh CVT transmission?
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Courtjesterau wrote:

What are the "problems" you mentioned with teh CVT transmission?



Shane,

The CVT issues are being discussed in ]THIS thread, but as per our observation it only seems to imapct on the Series 1 and 2 (2007-2009) models, as we have had no reports of faulty CVT transmissions in the Series 3 and 4 from 2010 onwards.

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Date Registered: 11-2012
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Hi,

just wondering what you ended up buying to tow your Windsor? We are also lookg at X-trail to tow our single axel Widsor with an ATM of 1490kg. How did you go with towing your Windsor?

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Date Registered: 04-2012
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Towing in top gear with a modern automatic isn't a problem. Regardless of CVT or standard auto. The issue with towing in top gear with autos was in the days of "overdrive" which wasn't a physical gear, this isn't really done anymore. Leave the CVT in auto and just drive the vehicle. Keep in mind if you're towing a more than 1500kg with an X-Trail you should be using a fully adjustable distribution hitch.

Windsorx, I would advise the CVT 2.5 for towing if looking at X-Trails. The auto in the diesel is only 1300kg-ish towing capacity (the main reason i didn't buy one). Manual with regular caravan towing will probably chew clutches.

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Date Registered: 03-2011
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I thought the problem of towing in 'tall gears' was a simple gearbox speed multiplication issue.

If you travel at the same speed, and change up for the engine to rev slower, the gearbox spins faster, creating more heat. Higher rpm, gearbox spins slower = less gearbox heat.

Hence auto's having lower towing capacities as they often have a combination of generating more heat, and having less or equal cooling than a manual.

I find the TS Auto holds gears a fair bit longer than the engine is capable of, could be a case of being tuned a little for towing?

On top speed runs for cars and bikes, they usually have a gearbox temp readout, and can often limit the length of runs.
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Date Registered: 04-2012
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Older cars that have an "Overdrive" button for 4th speed don't have a physical 4th gear... Keeping in mind these older boxes also didn't have a so called manual mode either...

Top speed runs have nothing to do with towing.

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Date Registered: 01-2015
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I'm towing a 2,000 kg boat with trailer (2,000 kg all up weight).
7 years now no problems.
On steep hills, I use 1st gear and put the cabin heater on full in the summer.
Xtrail 2 liter automatic 2006.
So far so [sign in to see URL] [sign in to see URL] it's the limit.

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Hi There, as a new member to the forum, your first post should be made in the introductions section before posting anywhere else. It gives you the chance to introduce yourself and your car and be assigned a Member ID.

Please do so when you get a moment. Thanks

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