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Date Registered: 03-2010
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Best engine with auto transmission for towing


Hello everyone.

I have just joined this forum and would like some advice on the best engine (petrol or diesel) in a 2010 model X-Trail for towing a 4.5M Windsor Pop-Top caravan.

So far I have conflicting advice with regards to the diesel auto not being able to handle the full 2000Kg towing capacity as against the Petrol with the CVT, which apparently can.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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Craig
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Date Registered: 01-2009
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I'm biased but the diesel would be better in my opinion but why not go one better and get a Navara (I have both)

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Thanks Guys for the prompt reply.

I have a limited choice of vehicle (company lease) and the Exy looks to be the best choice so far ( for affordability, comfort etc.). The Pathfinder and Patrol are also available and no doubt would be better suited, but unfortunately both are out of my price range.

A friend suggested the Petrol with CVT would be the better as he also heard of the restricted towing rate for the 2.0l diesel with auto Tx.

After saying that, before I heard of the reduced towing capacity bit, I always assumed the diesel would be better because of the extra torque.

I guess I will need to confirm the van's weight also before making a final decision.

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Craig
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Date Registered: 02-2009
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I wouldn't be towing a 2 tonne trailer behind an X. The auto is only rated to 1600kg and the manual to 2000kg with proviso's.

2000kg's is the absolute maximum for the manual deisel though it could pull more.

The Pathy would in fact be the best option for your needs as much as I hate to push a different 4by.

Cheers

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Sorry to comment on a old thread but I have only just become active. On the question of towing with a T31. I have towed with a ST CVT since they came out, I tow both a Caravan 1850 GVM and a Rally Car a trailer 1650 GCM. The X Trail tows these without any problems, in fact having towed since 1979 I can say this vehicle is the best HOWEVER fuel consumption suffers and while I tow at a sweet spot of between 90 - 95 kph the car uses about 20ltrs per 100km. On a recent trip to East Gippsland the car towed the Van with ease on the Hills coming out of Bruthen toward Bairnsdale it only slowed to 85kph before I manually kicked the CVT down to a indicated 3 and the car easily accelerated back to 90kph. I wouldn't buy a Pathfinder for this job as it is not the best tow car in that category, that would be a Jeep Grand Cherokee V6 turbo diesel about $54K on the road ($10K cheaper that the pathfinder and much better equipment). But you end up with something a lot bigger for everyday driving than the nimble x trail.

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Date Registered: 09-2008
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Couldn't agree more, we've got a 2008 T31 CVT, it tows our 14' Jayco poptop beautifully. I know the van's only about 1350 kg loaded but on the Princes Hwy between Gippsland and Sydney it doesn't seem to have a problem. I've always got it in "manual" modeand never have my foot flat on the go pedal, always try to keep it between 3000 and 3500 revs, seems to get around 15l / 100 km at those revs and still sits on 90 / 95, never have much traffic behind so we must be keeping to the road concensus speed.
Cheers Dave from Trafalgar.
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Date Registered: 11-2008
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Try it in auto, you may be surprised with the fuel economy, in manual mode the full range of gearing is not available. About the only time I use manual is on downhill runs.

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Guys it's not a good idea to tow heavy loads using auto in auto transmissions.
You should always use manual mode and never tow in top gear unless the road and terrain are flat, (freeway).

Towing in top gear will deteriorate the auto trans and cause premature failure.
Fuel economy is not everything.

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Date Registered: 01-2009
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cooch t31 wrote:

Guys it's not a good idea to tow heavy loads using auto in auto transmissions.
You should always use manual mode and never tow in top gear unless the road and terrain are flat, (freeway).

Towing in top gear will deteriorate the auto trans and cause premature failure.
Fuel economy is not everything.



I was under the impression that only applied to the normal type automatics and not the CVT due to the different way they worked.



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Date Registered: 06-2008
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Your right, but the CVT is an auto style tranny which means it changes gear by itself.
I still wouldn't trust it, especially with the dramas going on with them ATM.

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