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The water tap she's referring to in the check engine light of course and it is no longer there today, I can only assume the Cam sensor has given up as well.



That happened to me too recently Jalal.
MIL came on, did diagnostic and 0340 Cam Sensor Fault.
Then after 1 day waiting for sensors to arrive, MIL went out and stayed out for about a week.
MIL came back on during the drive home from the Show&Shine, did diagnostic and 0340 again.
Replaced the Cam Sensor and no MIL since.

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Does the ECU store the error in memory after the MIL light goes away or do I have to wait for it to come on again to catch the error code?

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It probably would store it so an ECU reset should clear the history.

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Yeah Tony, am not worried about clearing it at this stage, but I wanted to know if the dealer can see the fault recorded in the ECU when I take it to them even though the MIL light has gone off. I don't think our ECU is capable of self re-setting of self-clearing error codes until a full re-set is done manually.

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Hi Guys,

This is just a heads-up on the timing chain replacement costs and feasibility on the T30 models. (it's quite scary indeed!)

I have received 2 emails since posting my fuel consumption problem on the forum from T30 owners with exactly the same problem and grinding noises, both of them have been told by their mechanics it was the timing chain and advised them to sell their cars, as replacing the timing chain due to faulty time chain tensioner is more costly than reconditioning the engine itself.

The costs associated with replacing the timing chain in the T30 models is in the vicinity of around $4000 and if you add these costs to re-sale value of the T30 models, it is simply not practical to do so. You might as well buy a 2nd hand engine with low kms for around $2,500!!

Basically, due to Nissan Australia never issuing a recall for the timing chain tensioner, there is a very high probability of the timing chain jamming or getting damaged of the timing chain tensioner is not service periodically, so I would advise all T30 owners to insist on having the timing chain tensioner serviced because if you get to a stage where the timing chain is damaged or skipped a tooth, that will be the death sentence for your xtrail emoticon

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there is a very high probability of the timing chain jamming or getting damaged of the timing chain tensioner is not service periodically, so I would advise all T30 owners to insist on having the timing chain tensioner serviced


how exactly is the timing chain tensioner serviced?
Anywhere in the service manual that details this? I can understand how having a tensioner fail whilst under load can cause some serious internal damage, but is the tensioner inspection/service part of any scheduled maintenance?

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That's the biggest catch of them all, under normal operating conditions and the characteristics of having a timing chain (versus a timing belt) it is supposed to last for the life of the car, but in our case and given the fact that there was formal recall for the timing chain tensioner in the UK (and other countries), we are exposed to timing chain failures due to this little part.

Nissan need to check the markings on the timing chain tensioner to ensure it is still positioned correctly and doing its job by keeping the timing chain nice and tight and this applies to the bolts holding the tensioner in place. In most cases Nissan will replace the tensioner rather than muck around with it, but it can be adjusted as explained in the service manual

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The tensioner is NOT part of any scheduled maintenance service because the timing chain itself is not a serviceable item according to Nissan and is there for the life of the car. Nissan will only check the tensioner if you complain of hearing rattling noises from the engine bay.

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Oh dear!

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Okaaaay, here we go again. I'm getting my exy serviced on Monday at the dealer in Atherton. I asked the guy behind the service desk about getting the timing chain tensioner checked/serviced.

He replied that you can't service them, never heard of it being done, and it's not possible. He said you have to take the front off the engine off to get at the tensioner, and its a big job/lots of hours. He said the only thing they do is pull out the chain out and replace it.

I rang just now to speak to the service manager, and he said exactly the same thing.

I read out the bit from the manual and he still said the same thing.

!!!!!! emoticon

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Julie,

The timing chain replacement process requires the removal of the engine from the engine bay to have the timing chain "pulled out" as they told you, I do believe (although I am not certain) that the timing chain tensioner can be reached from under the car without having the engine lifted up.

Had I known about this bloody timing chain tensioner problem earlier, I would have asked Nissan to replace it for me there and then rather than waiting for it to damage the timing chain and loose my car emoticon

Looks like another time bomb similar to the butterfly screws and just as costly to repair.

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