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Date Registered: 11-2008
Location: Perth
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aftermarket fuel pump vs. fuel comsumption


hey guys, I've stumbled on something VERY weird...

Since i installed my walbro fuel pump, ive noticed a definite increase in fuel economy...

instead of before i was getting 420-440kms per tank (i know pretty terrible - my cars untuned so thats taking its toll - im running quite rich). but since i did the pump, im getting more like 450-470kms. no lie, ive always closely monitored my fuel consumption, one of the ways i can tell if my QR is still trouble free.

Its nothing to do with fuel pressure, cos that would lead to more fuel being injected, and i havn't noticed a jump in power (or a loss for that matter).

the only thing i can think of is that its supplying the fuel to the rail more efficiently. so neither the pump, injectors or computer have to work as hard, but there almost no possible way they would make a 30km/tank difference!

Any ideas?

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Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Hi Cam,

The amount of fuel used (and hence economy) is a factor of a few things ...
- pressure
- length of time injector is fired

The length of time the injector is open is effected by ...
- amount of load on the engine (more load, more open throttle, more fuel)
- octane rating (higher octane, more energy, less fuel required for engine load)
- intake pressure charge (more air, more fuel for standard air/fuel ratio setting)

Now I don't think our ECU monitors the exact fuel microlitres injected per cylinder by a flowmeter so I think it will be a purely timed opening based on throttle position, air volume, cam timing (fuel flow has to stop when intake valve starts to close) and exhaust oxygen content (air/fuel ratio monitoring).

Your gain is only about 10% or slightly less so I think it might only be driving style.
Didn't you say a while back you had to take things easy for a while until you get it all together and tuned ?

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Date Registered: 11-2008
Location: Perth
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Thanks Kev,

Yeh I think it might just be a weird coincidence , but i definitely noticed a jump.
Just can't remember changing my driving style that much, that suddenly.

Ill keep monitoring it and see what happens, I've only got ~110kms off this first quarter of a tank so ill see how this one goes.

Does anyone know how our fuel system works??
as far as i can tell its a returnless system that just has varying signal to the fuel pump, so when fuel is needed, the ECU raises the voltage to the fuel pump and supplys more fuel.
That i guess would negate the use of a fuel pressure regulator - as we dont have one...

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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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Cam
I don't think the ECU can regulate voltage on the fuel pump.
It will constantly stay at 12 volts.
The only way I think it might work is the time the fuel pump is made to work.
ie, more power, the fuel pump increases pressure to the motor.

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