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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Hi Guys,

If you are in WA and plan to modify your exy or enhance its performance in any way, you MUST read the new regulations HERE

These new laws are applicable to (Turbocharging, supercharging, LPG conversions, Exhaust system modifications, ECU piggy backs and chip upgrades)

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Date Registered: 11-2008
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For anyone interested;

There's some quite large discussion on this new test, if ya wanna read up, here's some links to other forums where heaps of discussion is goin on.

Skylines Australia

Boostcruisin'

Australian LS1 forum

Kostecki Engine Centre - emissions testing

Hitman Performance - Emissions info

I just got off the phone with KEC, I spoke to Dave. He quoted me $450 for set-up and test, then $135p/h for their labor charge. Benchmark length in 3 hours, so that equates to $855. It varies depending on the car, and that price is for our x-tails.

His main advice was to make sure the car is in a good state of tune, with a euro spec 3, 4 or 5 cat converter, and that the injection and ignition system is in good condition.

With all that done, its not actually a hard test to pass!

To clarify, this new legislation means than ANY car with a defect notice (yellow sticker) MUST have an IM240 test completed...



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Date Registered: 11-2008
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here's a copy of the letter i sent to the minister for transport in regards to the regulations.

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Dear Minister O’Brien,

I'm writing to inform you of a situation currently in place in Western Australia relating to the April 2009 announcement of immediate emission testing requirements (specifically, the IM240 emission test)

Firstly, as the emissions test is conducted by a third party with no association with the government at all, the test can cost anywhere from $890 (standard 4cyl small car) to upwards of $3000 dollars (this includes multiple tests, replacement equipment required to pass the test, plus professional installation). In essence, this new testing means drivers of all types of cars can be subjected to said test, just by the hearsay of a police officer or vehicle inspector who just 'suspects' a vehicle's emissions might not be inline with Australia Design Rules (ADRs). Furthermore, the vehicle is not impervious to further emissions testing despite successfully passing the IM240 test. Drivers can be subsequently forced to retest their vehicles, at their own personal expense, on the whim of a DPI vehicle examiner at any time after their initial test. As there is no way for a examiner to determine if a vehicle’s emissions are within the required levels, a vehicle which was initially suspected of higher emissions but complies to the emissions standards, will be forced to resit the test. Noteworthy at this time, the test itself (which is undertaken on a chassis 'dyno') may not be suitable for some AWD or 4WD cars. Some cars with aforementioned drivetrains, cannot safely be put on a dyno to perform this test without severe, expensive damage to (and not limited to) gearbox, transfer case, differetial, drive shafts and wheel hub and bearings. Who would then pay for this repair?

The Nissan X-trail (that I own myself) is an example of this.

This is an exctract from the bulliten released in April:

"Engine modifications may substantially affect emissions, particularly the addition of turbochargers and superchargers. Vehicles conversions from petrol and diesel to dual fuel, LPG or NG, or certain imported vehicles may also require testing in some cases. However, the lack of practical options for in-service testing of vehicle emissions has been an impediment to the Department for Planning and Infrastructure’s ability to ensure that the WA community is able to benefit from the improvements to the standards applying to new vehicles.
Although there is at least one company in WA capable of performing full ADR emission testing regime, these tests are expensive ($3000 or more per test). Authorities throughout Australia agree that in most cases it is unreasonable to expect that such expensive testing be required when assessing modified vehicles or imports. As a result, some jurisdictions have instead specified an IM240 test (for petrol or LPG powered vehicles) or a DT80 test (for diesel). These are abbreviated tests which approximate the ADR test regime but are simpler and cheaper to perform."

In regards to the mentioning of LPG/CNG/NG conversions, how can this be fair that now such conversions that save a bucket load in ever increasing fuel bills, plus drastically reduce emissions, are now being subjected to testing of up to $3000. I'm quite certain that the government grant (ending soon I might add) would not stretch to cover these costs. Also with regards to the part referring to the IM240 testing being a "cheaper" alternative to a full ADR test series, the IM204 test can cost similar to this in most cases. If (quote) authorities throughout Australia agree that in most cases it is unreasonable to expect that such expensive testing be required when assessing modified vehicles or imports, (un-quote) then how is a test of similar costs, considered reasonable?

A further concern is that from 1st August 2009 replacing the exhaust system with an OEM equivalent part as part of regular vehicle maintainance, rather than the OE supplied part will also require IM240 testing. This is an unnecessary and onerous regulation that will increase the cost to drivers if they do not purchase a part manufactured from the original vehicle parts supplier. This is also in clear breach of guidelines issued by the ACCC in 2005 regarding the use of OE or equivalent parts for vehicle maintenance.

DPI WA have also installed just one privately owned testing station, causing a multitude of issues. This facility is not run by the government, and the price of the test is monitored only by the company which owns the testing facility, Kostecki Engine Centre. Although KEC have the appropriate testing facility, they have nowhere near enough resources to be able to test the volume of cars this new regulation now deams "illegal". The testing implies that (with no exaggeration) roughly 70% of the cars on the road would not be legal. Cars that are old or in small disrepair or with ANY exhaust modification, even if it is of manufacturer standards or above, aftermarket performance parts (turbo/superchargers, high spec camshafts, engine management systems etc. - that for the most part, make engines run more efficiently) meet this criteria along with a few brand new cars that have been proven to not meet ADR standards. The latter of which was discovered by an indepentant car dealership in Sydney, with a VE SS commodore ute (equiped - from factory - with a 6.0L GM sourced V8 engine), a Subaru Impreza WRX STi, and a VE Commodore with the 3.6l V6 powerplant installed. Only the V6 commodore passed the testing. These cars, are fresh from the factory, are ready to be sold to average Joe and average Jane citizen, but little do they know that they could well be up for almost $3000 dollars to make their stock car, legal.

The part that angers most people, is the fact that the testing requires the car's engine meet standards of their respective year. This means that an early model falcons/commodores/kingswoods, most of which my now would be in far less than factory condition, are being passed, while they still blow soot, carbon and unburnt fuel into the atmosphere (due to less strict - read non-existant - emissions laws of that period), while cars of less than 10 years old, prime examples are Falcons, Commodores, Nissan Skylines, Nissan Silvias, Subaru WRXs with new technology and in great condition, are being failed. It is common knowledge that the latter mentioned cars are 'targets' for police inspections, especially with younger drivers behind the wheel. So effectively, old, dirty carbon spewing cars can be still considered legal, while newer cars, with substantially less polluants, are being defected. How can we (the general public) be assured that the government is doing its best to help out environment, when this blatant contradiction is in existance? Also, seldom can this new regulation assure that the government is lending a hand to the thousands of (financially) struggling citizens in light of current economic status.

This blatant monopoly also appears to be endorsed by the government, which regulates the traffic of customers to this company from the vehicle examination centres. How can the average tax paying citizen afford $890 dollars, plus any additional costs (as discussed, this price could well rise above $3000), to get this test done? And how is it fair that it is now within the power of police officers to be able to lay down this test, with no justification, just a suspicion?

I know I speak for not only myself, but for thousands of worried car enthusiasts, and everyday drivers who on their next drive, could well receive a bill for upwards of $900 dollars plus for the testing.

Please respond to my concerns as soon as possible. If a satisfactory response isn't received within 28 days, I will regretfully be lodging a complaint with the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

Thank you for your time.


Cameron Orton
5 **** place
Sorrento WA
6020



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Hey guys, to anyone interested, this is a copy of the bulletin that I received in reply to my above e-mail:

quote:

- MEMBER ALERT -

ARD, AADA, IVD, AAR, ATD, FID, ERD MEMBERS



20 August 2009



CHANGES TO EMISSION TESTING TO LIGHT VEHICLES IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA



As a result of considerable concern within the automotive industry about a complete change to emission testing arrangements for light vehicles in Western Australia a meeting was held at the MTA last week involving automotive repairers and representatives from the Department of Transport involved in the emissions testing arena. At that meeting a number of issues were discussed that have arisen as a result of the release of Vehicle Safety Standards Information Bulletin in March 2009 which took effect in April 2009.



The issues included;



· The lack of consultation with industry ;

· The inadequacy of the number of testing facilities;

· Problems with the replacement of catalytic converters;

· A series of issues relating to LPG installations;

· The lack of education campaign for members of the public; and

· No procedures in place for present for 4WD emission testing.



As a result of the discussions at the meeting, the following actions have been proposed to the Minister for Transport and his Department:



· The Information Bulletin on IM240 testing needs to be immediately withdrawn to allow consultation with industry and only reinstated when there is appropriate infrastructure in place to support the policy.

· That consideration is given to setting up a government testing facility along similar lines to that available in NSW.

· Testing facilities need to be made available to regional Western Australia.

· There needs to be a public education program to inform the community about the changes.

· There is a need to consult with the Police about the changes and future enforcement measures.

· There needs to be further consultation with industry over a 4WD testing regime.

· There needs to be much greater consultation with industry over the testing of LPG fitted vehicles particularly those that would fail an emission test prior to the installation of a gas system.

· There needs to be a system of accreditation of component parts that are deemed to be compliant particularly with catalytic converters and exhaust systems.



I have urged the Minister to take immediate steps to suspend the Information Bulletin to avoid any further outcry from industry and the risk of embarrassment to the Department. I will be meeting with the Minister tomorrow, Friday 21st August and emissions testing will be high on the agenda for that meeting.



I will keep you informed of all further developments.



Yours sincerely



PETER FITZPATRICK AM, JP, FSAE, GAICD

Chief Executive



Good news, it means that the IM240 testing regime has been withdrawn pending review.
Just thought I'd share.

Good lesson in standing up for whats fair.
I'm only 18, but with some cleverly put-together words, and some good facts to back it up, even state MPs can sit up and take notice emoticon

(sorry I'm a little proud of myself here haha)
Cam.

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Hi Cam,

If I read it correctly, it still seems that the Minister for Transport and his Department still need to review the recommendations and accept them.
Is this correct ?

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As far as I know, yes.
Its just a proposal for the changes.

But at least its a start!

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I read a few articles in newspapers a few weeks ago that the issue had been put to a stand-still in NSW after the 4WD Council and other bodies met with relevant people to discuss their concerns...

I think it may have been mentioned in another thread?


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Rich,

That was about the suspension new laws and not emission.

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quote:

jalalski wrote:

Rich,

That was about the suspension new laws and not emission.



(smacks head against wall)


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