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Cam, are you willing/able to post approx cost of the exhaust system (individual parts and/or complete system, with/without labour)?



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Rich,

This information (if Cam is willing to disclose it) is better posted in the aftermarket exhaust thread.

Secondly, why are you asking? Have you been given the approval to proceed with modifying your exy? emoticon

Third, those interested can approach Cam by PM or Email if he doesn't want this information to be made public.

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Rich, When i finally get around to it (tomorro after the meet up!)
ill do a write up for the exhaust what it involved.
in the exhaust thread of course emoticon

ive bin lazy on here latley as ive bin enjoying my new powerband emoticon emoticon
stay tuned.


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Hey guys.

finally getting round to posting somepics of the exhaust fabrication/installation.

best part about this story is....

yesterday i visited a vehicle inspection centre to have everything checked out and tested (emmissions and noise) and BORIS had no problems at all.
the guy there pulled my car up on a hoist and inspected all the welds, joins and hangers, and he said its one of the best (neatest) DIY jobs hed seen for a wile. i cant take much of the claim for that as i didnt do much of the welding (just the tacking) but im still pretty stoked. he held some handheld device up the my exhaust and before you ask i didnt get to see what the readings were but he said it passed easily. he just did a by-ear check (shouldnt he have used a device to measure the noise levels???) but he didnt have any issues. ( i was suprised, i think its actually quite loud!)
i was in and out in 30 mins!

basically, it consists of the wrapped OBX racing headers, stock front pipe, the 3' cat just after the front pipe, 2 hotdog mufflers, and a small resonator (like a cannon) just before the tip. (everything is 2.25in)
we were able to keep all the stock hangers and the front two flanges so it fits snug and tight.
in the end i decided to go with the heat wrap after heaps of research and consultation with muffler shops, they said stainless ones are fine in terms of cracking, the only problem is the smoking they make when you first start it up (as i soon discovered), but that stopped after 10 mins or so.

all up the prices were:
OBX racing headers = $250 + $52 shipping from ebay
mufflers, resonator and 2.25' mandrel bent steel piping + bends = $110
3' cat converter = $165
carton of coldies for my mate who helped me = $30
TOTAL: $577 + free installation (exc. the beer)


anyway heres some of the pics.

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1st pic: tip form supercheap
2nd pic: little hotdog
3rd pic: hotdog + tip (the only full weld i did emoticon )
4th pic: catback system minus 2nd muffler and cat
5th pic: hangers on the rear portion
6th pic: bit of welding goin on...
7th pic: stock headers yuck!
8th pic: headers wrapped and installed (before the first startup haha they turned blakc in teh first minute)
9th pic: tip installed
10th pic: new engine bay look
11th pic: installing the cat @ calebs work.


it goes without saying that i cant compare to the hitech system in terms of MAX power increase, gurantees, quality, durability etc... I am in now way out there to stick it in Jalal's face saying "i did it for a 1/6th of the price! emoticon" This just demonstrates that if you are willing to take a risk (i guess that comes to with being young) and do things yourself (with appropriate guidance) you will sometimes be rewarded.

and yes, the power increase in mental. it pulls from any rev range now and hosts a large increase in the mid and high ranges. any speed in 1st gear, if i just flatten the accellerator i will just spin same almost goes for 2nd.


"i just cant seem to keep traction through the first two gears these days..." emoticon

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.....and at some stage in that busy day you got the rocker cover painted as well emoticon
Nice effort.....the exhaust wrap has confirmed (for me...neatness freak) ceramic coating if I ever get round to this one...the more I see of that "squid extraction set up" the more I want to take to it, with a hammer.
Boris on the forky looks good...I need one at my place
Gunna dump the stock intake and get some struts now the Cosmo is in, or hang onto the "Stick" a bit longer lol

Nice work mate...top stuff on the emissions tests

Better drag your old man off and see how it all goes in comparison emoticon

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the rocker cover was done today...
i just took that photo cos i didnt have a pic of the headers in the engine bay...
yeh the mess of stock extractors have a permanent home in the back shed now...

howd you find the cold air installation?
pretty straightfoward eh?

wat about gains?
i notice an even, additional pull throughout the entire range, no bias to high range or lows, just added a bit all over.

my dads is auto so i wont be completley accurate comparison, but i rekon itl just make mine looks even faster emoticon

thanks for the feedback!


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Cam,

Please move (or copy) the exhaust post to the aftermarket exhaust section of the forum as it will help others as well.

Nice effort indeed, but I wouldn't be too excited about that wrap you have there on the headers. It's no even properly wrapped as a thermal wrap would normally be applied to each pipe separately. How's the engine bay heat?

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I am in now way out there to stick it in Jalal's face saying "i did it for a 1/6th of the price! " This just demonstrates that if you are willing to take a risk (i guess that comes to with being young) and do things yourself (with appropriate guidance) you will sometimes be rewarded.



The price of an such an important modification was not one of the motives for me (personally) doing it, it's the proven results, durability and the huge warranty and craftsmanship of the exhaust system that made it appeal to me personally, so while I congratulate you on taking the risk (as you said it), I wouldn't have done it to my own xtrail had I not seen someone do it before me emoticon The noise level of any aftermarket set-up was always a great concern of mine and I've seen some xtrails on the road that sound like tractors with those cheap mufflers hanging at the back, but from your feedback received so far, yours is not like that, so am pretty happy with what you have achieved and as long as you are happy with it, there is no need to stick anything in my face as am not gaining anything out of it except the knowledge of giving you the motivation to do it and the confidence in letting you know that it can be done with the Hi-Tech system or others.

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the lack of heat in the engine bay is unbelievable, nothing like the stock setup.
even after going out for a substantial burn, its nowhere near as hot as before. all the piping (vacuum hoses, break lines) and all plastic parts are cooler to touch so thats gotta be a good thing!

as for the header wrap, i can assure you its safe and durable. its tight, secure, as neat as possible and hasnt moved or changed (expect in colour) since it was put on. I guess time will tell, but im confident in my efforts and if it passed the inspection centre, it cant be a crappy quality "tractor" style setup.

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Cam,

Where the cat set-up and what type of cat. converter did you install?

I'm happy to hear that is passed the inspection, usually the inspectors can tell if it's above the legal noise levels and only then use the noise level measuring device to confirm it, so I reckon in your case he just deemed it acceptable which is great.

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didnt have any pics of the cat.
it was just a regular ceramic type.
i was gonna go for a stainless one.
but the tech guy at carline mufflers said it wouldnt be worth it, you would hardly notice a difference between the two types (except in the wallet). we installed a secondry heat shield over it that it separated from the body of the cat (sorta like a mini bash plate if you will),
so if i do any water crossings, the change in temerature from teh water splashings is not likely to damage the cat at all. and since its no longer near the headers, theres virtually no chance of any ceramics getting sucked back into the engine.

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