T31 CVT https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/t126669 Runboard| T31 CVT en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:43:03 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 07:43:03 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: ignition Coil for Xtrail T31https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2096507,from=rss#post2096507https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2096507,from=rss#post2096507Anyone can assist?nondisclosed_email@example.com (oyajid)Mon, 11 Feb 2019 23:43:54 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2057498,from=rss#post2057498https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2057498,from=rss#post2057498quote:mistatee wrote: "MY T31 has just had a problem with CVT. It has done approx 8000km. I was at the bottom of my up hill driveway I hesitated to allow the garage door to raise and then when I accelerated it started to shudder and would not go uphill. I let it roll back onto the flat road and it had no power at all . I eventually switched off the engine and restarted and it had just enough grunt to make it into the garage." This problem may have been somehow related to the auto transmission failsafe mode as explained on the 4WD System and Transmission section under T31 Auto Transmission - Failsafe mode. nondisclosed_email@example.com (CWF85)Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:58:03 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047973,from=rss#post2047973https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047973,from=rss#post2047973I don't think they will run the engine for that long, but they do the engine stress test on it before putting it in the car to identify any faults and/or problems. Have a look at the engine assembly videos on youtube to get an idea.nondisclosed_email@example.com (jalalski)Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:33:32 +0000 Re:https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047968,from=rss#post2047968https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047968,from=rss#post2047968quote:Mate, they run the engine in before putting it in the car So theoretically, even though the odometer reads 20k on a new car, the engine may have done the equivalent of 1000k or more?nondisclosed_email@example.com (gregr2)Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:29:12 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047967,from=rss#post2047967https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047967,from=rss#post2047967quote:gregr2 wrote: This raises a question... if the engine is "run in" on a bench, how many hours/km has the engine already done? My odometer read 20k when I picked it up, but the engine must have done many more. Any thoughts? Mate, they run the engine in before putting it in the car nondisclosed_email@example.com (jalalski)Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:13:17 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047966,from=rss#post2047966https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2047966,from=rss#post2047966I have found the CVT takes a little time to get used to. Seems to change up the gears too quickly, and feels sluggish when driven like Miss Daisy. However when driven a bit harder, it really gets going. Have had to change my driving style, still conscience of fuel economy. When I purchased the exy, the salesman told me the engine had already been run in and to drive the car as hard as I like, but while flicking through the owners manual, it says not to exceed 4000 RPM for the first 1000k? Suppose it better to be safe than sorry. This raises a question... if the engine is "run in" on a bench, how many hours/km has the engine already done? My odometer read 20k when I picked it up, but the engine must have done many more. Any thoughts? nondisclosed_email@example.com (gregr2)Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:39:30 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2035890,from=rss#post2035890https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2035890,from=rss#post2035890thanks for your replies, sorry Im slow to respond but Ive had uni exams. Im up to 1500km on the dial and normal city driving has been a joy now that Ive gopt used to the cvt. I think you were quite right, just a bit more throttle then Im used to and flooring it not a great idea haha. Also for step inclines, a bit of momentum obviously helps too. Im going to try and get some sunset photos in the hills over the next few weeks so will be pushing it a bit more in this enviroment will advise how she goes. Wow Helldude, Im keen to try out the manual mode but thats a bit of a worry - was there any noise from the transm.? I still have nightmares after Bec put my Falcon into reverse by accident at 80k haha nondisclosed_email@example.com (joeby)Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:31:28 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2034851,from=rss#post2034851https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2034851,from=rss#post2034851I have just done a 1777 km trip on Freeways, winding country roads and a little off road ! I love the way the CVT operates I have never seen over 4000 revs ! even going up hill with a loaded ! THe CVT holds the legal speed limit uphills with no worries . It does take a little time to get a customed to how it operates . It also went well overtaking slow vehclies on a single lane country road ! I won't say what speed registered on the speedo but it was impresive in such a short time The cruise control brought things back to normal nice and easy . Off road at walking pace up hill the Cvt was great ! just point it at a hill and go ! Just a bit of wheel spin ( Grip searching ) and constant revs mak efor an easy climb. 8.7l/100k was good too. Today i used manual mode to reduce my speed on a dirt road . It nearly brought me to a standstill !! the road is mainly flat with a little down slope !nondisclosed_email@example.com (Helldude)Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:30:39 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2034713,from=rss#post2034713https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2034713,from=rss#post2034713Hi Joeby, I have found that it needs only slightly more throttle pressure, and never flooring it, to get it to go up hills, it may be that your not noticing it actually changing up as it is very smooth, I once tried just maintaining constant throttle pressure whilst going up a hill and keeping a eye on the tacho to see what happened, and the tacho slowly began rise before settling at a constant rev. Driving around the city mine hardly goes over 2000rpm getting up to 60k's, there are some hills with a speed limit of 80-90k's and it'll go to about 3000rpm. I mean I was even towing my 1200kg boat the other day and at 60k's it was doing about 1800rpm normally 1500rpm, and about 2200rpm, if I remember correctly, at 80k's, it changed up pretty quick on hills but again never going over 3200rpm. I suppose it could be just the way your used to how the old autos work.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Jupitor 2)Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:10:07 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2034676,from=rss#post2034676https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2034676,from=rss#post2034676Ive done 900km in my new t31 and its different from any other auto I have driven before. Im getting used to it but there does seem to be a bit of an art to driving it. It often stays in gear even though I thought I had given it enough juice to push up a gear, particularily on hills. From reading the manual it sounds like it may be a 'feature'. Too smart for its own good I think - very different from my old falcon but the manual suggests the CVT is smart enough to be left to its own devices but you can over-ride it by putting pedal to the floor. Ive been a bit reluctant to do this because the dealer told me not to go over 4k revs before the 1000km service. Overall I love the car, I guess I just have to adjust to the CVT. Will talk to them about it when I take it in next week. nondisclosed_email@example.com (joeby)Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:32:43 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2031540,from=rss#post2031540https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2031540,from=rss#post2031540quote:jalalski wrote: Guys, Not sure what a T31 CVT thread has got anything to do with rattles Can someone please start a new thread in the car care area of the forum for T31 dash rattles and discuss this there? HERE are some existing threads you guys can use. Sorry Jala. My bad   nondisclosed_email@example.com (xtrailist)Mon, 03 Aug 2009 22:09:41 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2031530,from=rss#post2031530https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2031530,from=rss#post2031530Guys, Not sure what a T31 CVT thread has got anything to do with rattles Can someone please start a new thread in the car care area of the forum for T31 dash rattles and discuss this there? HERE are some existing threads you guys can use.nondisclosed_email@example.com (jalalski)Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:14:19 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2031527,from=rss#post2031527https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2031527,from=rss#post2031527Just had my exy from 10000km service today. I told them about the rattle from the dash and also mentioned about how members in here fixed it by tightening the bolt on dash. When i came to pick up the car, the service advisor told me that, they took the car for the test drive, and they couldn't hear it loud enough due to it is an intermittent rattle. But they tightened all the dash mounting bolt anyway.  I could still heard it straight away when i was driving home, it came from the two defogger vents at the centre of the dash. Has anyone tried to take out the defogger vents? I haven't figured out to take them out and check to see if there's something lose in there or maybe I'll place some foam under it as suggested by members in here. I'm really appreciated if someone could give me instructions how to take them out. Thanksnondisclosed_email@example.com (xtrailist)Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:43:00 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030536,from=rss#post2030536https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030536,from=rss#post2030536Hi Paul, quote:plawton wrote: I've had a rattle in the dash since I got the car. One of the air vents under the centre of the windscreen was loose and I thought it was that but the rattle's still there even after they fixed the loose vent. I've asked the garage about it a few times but they never seem to be able to pin point what it is. It's due another service at the end of the month so I'll ask again but I don't hold much hope. I hope they could fix yours and mine as well. it seems most cars have this problem sooner or later, regardless make and models. I've noticed this as well, though mainly when pulling away rather than at 60km/hr. When warm the CVT usually holds the revs low under gentle acceleration but for the first minute or so after starting it allows the revs to go much higher under the same acceleration. I assume it's just to allow the engne to warm up faster. You're exactly righg about this (when pulling away rather than at 60km/h) Thank you for clarifying it. Hi Jupitor 2, sure I will.   nondisclosed_email@example.com (xtrailist)Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:40:25 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030533,from=rss#post2030533https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030533,from=rss#post2030533I've had a rattle in the dash since I got the car. One of the air vents under the centre of the windscreen was loose and I thought it was that but the rattle's still there even after they fixed the loose vent. I've asked the garage about it a few times but they never seem to be able to pin point what it is. It's due another service at the end of the month so I'll ask again but I don't hold much hope. quote:I also noticed when i first start her in the morning if I let the engine warm up for a minute or so the CVT is working very smooth, otherwise it will hold the rev quite high ( 2000rpm @60-70 km/h) for the first 50-100 metres. I've noticed this as well, though mainly when pulling away rather than at 60km/hr. When warm the CVT usually holds the revs low under gentle acceleration but for the first minute or so after starting it allows the revs to go much higher under the same acceleration. I assume it's just to allow the engne to warm up faster.nondisclosed_email@example.com (plawton)Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:10:25 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030480,from=rss#post2030480https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030480,from=rss#post2030480Let us know how you get on with your rattle, I've got one coming from the dash area somewhere as well. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Jupitor 2)Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:35:27 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030477,from=rss#post2030477https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2030477,from=rss#post2030477I've done 9000k now and the CVT is still doing great. I made two trip 2 trips to Albany & Margaret River early this year and there was no problem. However, I've noticed one time when I just got into Reid Hwy, the CVT sort of holding gear quite long, and the rev was reading up and down between 2500-3000 rpm for a min or so @ 100km/h. Normally @100km/h the rev just stay around 1900-2000 rpm. I also noticed when i first start her in the morning if I let the engine warm up for a minute or so the CVT is working very smooth, otherwise it will hold the rev quite high ( 2000rpm @60-70 km/h) for the first 50-100 metres. I have book her in for the first 10000km service soon, hopefully she will even run better after that. Oh, I also got rattle from the passenger airbag side recently sound like something loose in there ( yes,I read a thread about this problem at technical and problem session, and prayed it wouldnt happen to me ), and I think the two dash twisters aren't working either, I've been thinking maybe a wire came loose or something. Will mention this to nissan service people.nondisclosed_email@example.com (xtrailist)Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:15:15 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2028046,from=rss#post2028046https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2028046,from=rss#post2028046On my last trip which was 1100klm , I had zero trouble with the Cvt . I actually can't believe how good it is . It is very different to a Manual and Auto in the way it opertates so I guess there is a tenendcy to believe there is something bad about it . The smoothness and fuel effeciency and drivability have convinced me its the gearbox for me. In light offroading I found the Cvt to preform great especially climbing grassy inclines,and over rocks it dosen't hesitate at crawling over them . On Motorways it just crusies along great then when you want to get passed a slow non X-trail driver - foot down and off you go ! Great ! I found that when following another car (manual) into a passing lane on a motorway the Cvt seems to jump a little quicker . nondisclosed_email@example.com (Helldude)Sun, 17 May 2009 20:36:46 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027456,from=rss#post2027456https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027456,from=rss#post2027456Hi Mick, This sounds like it may be the same issue I have had (details posted in this thread http://www.runboard.com/baustralianxtrail.f38.t126840). For no obvious reason you lose all power and can only crawl along. It doesn't matter what gear mode you are in and changing gear modes doesn't make any difference. The problem then seems to fix itself and all is perfectly OK. I would certainly speak to your Nissan garage about it. It may be something simple that they can diagnose immediately. If it is the same problem that I have had (apparently the gear box locks itself into a high ratio to protect itself for reasons as of yet unknown) they will not find anything wrong. If that is the case then get them to speak to the Nissan tech guys and give them as much info on what happened and how it happened. I know they are looking into this and the more info they get, the more chance they have of finding the problem. At the moment the only advice they can offer is, when it happens, switch the car off for 10 seconds and that will allow everything to reset and it should be fine.......until the next time. nondisclosed_email@example.com (plawton)Tue, 05 May 2009 08:05:50 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027450,from=rss#post2027450https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027450,from=rss#post2027450Mick, I think you should make a post in THIS thread which seems to relate to the problem you have experienced.nondisclosed_email@example.com (jalalski)Mon, 04 May 2009 22:10:31 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027446,from=rss#post2027446https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027446,from=rss#post2027446 I have just been on hol,s up to monkey mia from perth for 2 weeks pulling a 16' JACO expander pop top . On the way up absolutly no probs at all .Tha exy just crused all the way . I did a bit of beach driving where the only probs were when the sand got very soft real quick .Had to reverse about 200m where I could turn around .Once back on hard sand I noticed most dash lights were on ( no warning chimes ) turned engine off then on YAY all good . On the return trip back to perth I pulled out from a road side stop ????? no power ??? put into man gear change 1st gear showing still no power .. about 200-300m up the road revs slowly climed and away I went .??? lhat was strange ... It only did that once more on the way back to perth .I am not shure what it wes but I will be speeking to nissan very soon. nondisclosed_email@example.com (MAD MICK2)Mon, 04 May 2009 21:16:24 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027412,from=rss#post2027412https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027412,from=rss#post2027412Hi Robot95, quote:Question: Is the CVT adaptive or is it just that after lead footing it I just drive it harder cause it would seem to me that if you jump on it at the lights a couple of time it seems to stay in a lower ratio for a while give it a bit more kick than usual Yes, the CVT is adaptive so if you drive it hard then I'd expect it to hold the revs higher for longer, though I am not sure how long it takes to "detect" a specific driving style. I had the car is the garage last week and commented on the opposite of the effect you have seen. Most of my driving during the week is around town in the wonderful Sydney traffic so my foot never gets near the floor. I found that I regularly seem to need to put my foot down further than I should to get any increase in revs as if the throttle was de-sensitised. I was concerned that this was using more fuel than necessary as I seem to be getting higher fuel consumption figures than I'd expect. They said they'd try resetting the gearbox management to see if it helped. Haven't really been anywhere since to see if it helped yet.nondisclosed_email@example.com (plawton)Sun, 03 May 2009 21:30:43 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027408,from=rss#post2027408https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2027408,from=rss#post2027408*I just took a drive to mudgee , went down mount victoria , the CVT had no issues . On the way home going up the same hill the CVT had no issues either . I had about 4000 revs on the taco , It went well , nice and smooth keeping those revs until I got to the top . nice to know I had another 2000 revs to play with too. *One thing I did notice is that the CVT seems to want a few more revs than I thought was necessary when reversing up a small incline it went up ok just different ?! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Helldude)Sun, 03 May 2009 20:37:26 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026910,from=rss#post2026910https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026910,from=rss#post2026910Question: Is the CVT adaptive or is it just that after lead footing it I just drive it harder cause it would seem to me that if you jump on it at the lights a couple of time it seems to stay in a lower ratio for a while give it a bit more kick than usual.nondisclosed_email@example.com (robot95)Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:52:06 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026826,from=rss#post2026826https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026826,from=rss#post2026826Yes I have noticed that 6th gear in Manual mode is lower than top gear in cvt auto mode .I believe thats a good thing . On the acceleration topic , my cvt has a small amount of lag if a low throttle percentage is used , but if you give it some it revs up quick and scootes off in a Hurry . Thats a good thing too . I just love how smooth it is to drive. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Helldude)Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:11:36 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026748,from=rss#post2026748https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026748,from=rss#post2026748Its also on the manual gearbox dash, but dosen't illuminate. The probably only changed the orange dial between Auto's and manuals, everything else is just the same. Its a shame that in a manual, it doesn't show what gear you are in, that would be nice. Was going to ask you CVT guys if the SPORT mode was for the manual mode maybe.nondisclosed_email@example.com (cooch t31)Wed, 15 Apr 2009 06:04:49 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026743,from=rss#post2026743https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026743,from=rss#post2026743quote:robot95 wrote: Totally agree, maybe what they need to add is a sports button I think some overseas models do have a sport button, when you turn the ignition on have a look at all the warning lights, you'll see a green sport light, obviously not connected in our models. Peternondisclosed_email@example.com (Jupitor 2)Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:32:22 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026741,from=rss#post2026741https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026741,from=rss#post2026741Totally agree, maybe what they need to add is a sports button nondisclosed_email@example.com (robot95)Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:50:19 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026630,from=rss#post2026630https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026630,from=rss#post2026630Yep you're correct about the gearing. In my experience the CVT is a good concept but in practice I don't think the factory have quite got the calibration correct. As mentioned in another post at light throttle there is a definite hesitation feel when accelerating which I think has something to do with the air fuel ratio not matching the load that the CVT places on the engine. It always feels that the CVT places the gearing too high too soon and doesn't not allow the revs to reach a suitable level to let the engine torque work. This torque seems to be around at least 1700 rpm. This doesn't seem to happen when the engine is cold as the revs stay higher. When you're driving along and flick the lever to semi auto mode it always selects the next lower gear than what you're using in auto. Also if you start off in semi auto and and start flicking the lever up to 6th straight away then the gearbox works like a normal style auto and seemlessly works its way through the gears in a much smoother fashion than in full CVT mode. I think that's because it lets the engine rev higher in each gear before changing up which seems to suit the engine. With the CVT it tries to keep the revs as low as possible which in some cases are just too low.nondisclosed_email@example.com (xtrail virgin)Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:20:30 +0000 Re: T31 CVThttps://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026466,from=rss#post2026466https://baustralianxtrail.runboard.com/p2026466,from=rss#post2026466Hi has anyone noticed that when in 6th it is actually a low gear ratio then what you can get in auto?nondisclosed_email@example.com (robot95)Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:06:33 +0000