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Date Registered: 07-2008
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Towing with T31 CVT


Hi to all

I pick up my new T31 ST this week and I have a question on how to use the CVT while towing a boat or caravan

Whilst going uphill is it better to use the manual side of the box to keep it in a gear that will suit the hill or does the CVT work for you and not going from gear to gear like "normal" transmissions

I would think that going downhill you would use the manual side to stop having to ride the brake

I have read in other posts whilst going uphill to disengage the overdrive but on reading the CVT doesn't have or needs to have a overdrive

Any information on this will appreciated

Thanks Russell

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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Monbulk (Melbourne)
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Re: Towing with T31 CVT


Hi Russell
I've had mine for a few months,I tow a tool trailer of about 500kg and dont bother with
manual mode as it tows very easy,also a boat of about 600kg and the same thing as there are
only a couple hills on the way to the bay.
With the caravan (1400kg) I do use manual mode on hills and on the hwy,but in towns just
go back to auto ,if this is right or not I dont know, Its just what I do.(still learning)
Try and get a few K's on before you tow if you can and practice with the manual mode while
running her in (its a bit different)
Have fun

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Hi Michael

Thanks for your information

Will be picking mine up tomorrow arvo, can't wait

Should be able to wait a month (weathers not great at the moment) before I take the boat out, which will give me an idea on the box and how it works and like you recommend have some k's on it

Will learn through trial and error hopefully not to many errors

Thanks again
Russell
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Towed the boat from Campbelltown to Meadowbank for two reasons the boat needed a run and to try the Xtrail's abilities

Left home mid morning and was caught in shoppers traffic which meant alot of stop/start driving and the CVT handled this with ease

Kept it in auto was impressed with the ease it handled it, the transmission seemed to pick the right revs that it needed whether accelerating or cruising

Even with cruise control on, the Xtrail was doing it easy no sudden change backs like "normal" autos you just have the rev go up when coming to an inclines I say incline as it was not Mt Ousley or Bulli which I plan to attack in a couple of weeks now with confidence

In and out of the ramp was performed with no probs left it in Front Wheel Drive to see how it went as it was not a slippery ramp will need 4wd and/or lock on many others

Going home had less traffic and we could of nearly forgot that the boat was still there

The first towing experience was impressive and compared against my last car BF Falcon wagon could say the Xtrail was ahead on points with this sort of travel the next test will be Ousley

Will hope to try its off road capabilities before that, we camp at Wombeyan Caves every Queens Birthday Weekend and the road in can be slippery in a Falcon and Commodore when wet will want to be challenged a bit more but not to much more than that as the Xtrail should eat that road and have not had 4wd experience, any suggestions (will not have the boat)

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The next test for my Xtrail has now happened and the results were exceptional emoticon

Towed the boat from Ingleburn to Sussex Inlet for a early morning fish emoticon

The first test was the hills between Bulli and Mount Ously trying the manual and letting the CVT do its job both worked well

Going down Ousley the Xtrail was placed into the manual side to keep to the speed limit without riding the brakes this was also above expectations and handled it well

The Xtrail was impressive traveling to Sussex but the test of pulling the boat up Mount Ouley will be the big test

The next day we left to come home and the temperature outside was 34 and as we were approaching Mount Ousley the air con was keeping us cool insde was considering if I should turn the air con off to save power and help if heating was to be a problem

As we went past the uni I decided lets see what the Xtrial can do air con on cruise control set to 80 and just left in Auto

The car and boat was pulled up and over Ousley with ease, watching the taco it ranged from 2000 on the flat half way up to a max 4200 whilst negotiating the last and steepest part of the hill emoticon

I am now extremley happy with my decision on the Xtrail as my concern was its towing abilities and they are exceptional

The only downside of my trip was not so much the Xtrails fault but more my trailers

Whilst traveling down on friday night my son asked how you put the car into 4wd this was as we just came off Ousley I pointed to the knob that you turn and as I pointed to this I lost the lights on the controls which was also tail lights, and as we were going to fill up at Albion Park drove down the freeway with no tail lights 8(

When we filled up tryed to find a blown fuse, read book could not find one, looked under dash and also under bonnet, could not find it so I turned the cabin lights on in the boat so as people could see us from behind

As we turned into sussex inlet we also lost the brake lights but kept going to my parents place as it was now getting late and not knowing where the fuses were I was stuffed

After we fished the next morning I got on the net and read through some posting on here and found there was another fuse box under the bonnet, found the fuse replaced that one then found the stop fuse under the dash replaced that one, tested the trailer lights found them to be stuffed replaced them then drove home

Off road will be my next adventure

Thanks Russell

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Date Registered: 06-2005
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G'day all. After having done a few thousand kms of towing an 1100kg caravan over some of Tassies windy roads, my experience is to leave it in auto unless requiring the engine to hold back when going down hills, . Useing the manual mode, it will not let you change into a higher gear ratio than the conditions allow. The engine can't be slogged without it changing back automatically to a more satisfactory gear. It seems the vehicle has a self preservation mode operating. In a previously owned T30, 5 speed manual, if you used cruise control and was in a high gear and didn't change back going uphill, then the T30 would turn the cruise control off. Likewise the T31 won't let you operate manually in a gear higher than you should be. Try a test by driving up a hill, change up in manual mode to 6th before you have built up speed - it wont let you, watch the taco. With the T30 I would leave it in the highest gear without flogging it too much to conserve fuel. The T31 seems to like keeping the taco around the 2500 / 3000 rpm at best, hence towing I seem to use more fuel than the T30 5 speed manual . Though all said the T31 is way ahead in being a better tow vehicle.
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Hi guys
Just after an update on the T31 CVT with their towing abilities. Is there anyone that can provide a Long Term review of the CVT with towing a 1000kg trailerboat or van. Does the CVT maintain there towing abilities after a few years of towing or does the CVT die a horrible death. Have read that some owners have replaced their transmission more than once.
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Date Registered: 10-2008
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Don't forget to select auto on the 4wd system when towing. emoticon

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Hi Pete
Nice Trailcraft, How do you find the xtrail copes with towing the boat. Have you ever had any transmission problems?. Do you tow long distances or just short trips to the ramp & back.
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G/Day gtborg,
I no longer have the boat but the longest trip would have been about 3.5 HRS on the h/way.
It would have been about 1000 to 1100kg loaded.
I've had no dramas towing it but you know its there, as opposed to when it was behind a patrol.
The only thing i would have done if i was doing any distance would have been to upgrade the rear suspension to lift the bum up.
I didn't like the way the cruise control took it over hills as it would not cut out fast enough and tend to over speed once on the crest.
Other than that it towed just fine without any dramas even in the heat up here.

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