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Date Registered: 08-2012
Location: Canberra, ACT
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Thanks for the info guys. Looks like the plastic rails are staying.

Would it be feasible to simply have a track rail riveteted inside the plastic rails? Would that be ok for strength?

I'm more interested in accessing the removable cross-bars... so I could have a set of crossbars attached to my medium steel plaform, and another set with my kayak holders.

I'm thinking of switching to the HD Rhinos soon, as i can't get a good hold on the medium platform (it vibrates like crazy). I notice a lot of car with baskets/platforms have their u-shackles facing up... which is stupid because it would tear through my canvas bag... I think thats the problem that the u-shackles from my prorack are supposed to face up.

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Date Registered: 03-2012
Location: Newcastle, NSW
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konazz wrote:
Thanks for the info guys. Looks like the plastic rails are staying.
Would it be feasible to simply have a track rail riveteted inside the plastic rails? Would that be ok for strength? I'm more interested in accessing the removable cross-bars... so I could have a set of crossbars attached to my medium steel plaform, and another set with my kayak holders. I'm thinking of switching to the HD Rhinos soon, as i can't get a good hold on the medium platform (it vibrates like crazy). I notice a lot of car with baskets/platforms have their u-shackles facing up... which is stupid because it would tear through my canvas bag... I think thats the problem that the u-shackles from my prorack are supposed to face up.


If you mean riveting track to the roof itself (in between the rails) then yes you can definitely do that. Obviously you wouldn't want to load it up any more than absolutely necessary. Although I was answering in regard to what I thought you hoped to achieve, I've just re-read your original post..

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What's under the plastic rails? Do you think you can take them off and install a rail roof track system. Rhino has released detachable Cross bars but only on their rail legs, not fixed.


Not sure if I'm misunderstanding this... but you're hoping to have 2 sets of crossbars (however they're mounted), one to carry your kayaks on and one to mount the roof basket, yes? So still only the two crossbars? or are you hoping for the 3? Because Rhino Rack do removable HD crossbars to suit the xtrail... I had them on mine? Or have I confused myself here?

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Date Registered: 08-2012
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I want 2 things...
1) 3 cross bars to spread out the weight. Rhino and all others say max weight is 75kg; whereas the series IV and V T31 book says that 100kg on the roof is fine. I also want 3, to support the weight of the platform + i'm thinking of getting a Foxwing

2) i want track mount, so I can move it around, depending on what I'm carrying.

They're both linked, as having 3 bars, i'd need to space them accordingly to match the medium Rhino Platform.

I'm thinking, rather than having a track mount rivitted inboard of the plastic covers, I'd get it rivetted on the outside... giving it a lot of strength as the outer frame would be much much stronger... similar to how a lot of the mitsu challengers have it (on the outside of their roof rails)...
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Date Registered: 10-2013
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Hi, this is a great topic and one I have followed closely in the past. I just wonder whether anybody has completed their project on adding a third rail.

Regards
          Garry

Last edited by Garry Coates, 31/Aug/2018, 6:32 pm


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Date Registered: 06-2017
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Followed closely?? The last post before yours was 3 & 1/2 years ago! emoticon

But I am about to mount Rhino Tracks on my Jeep. Don't see why you couldn't do the same to the X-Trail. But I havent read all the pages of this thread either! emoticon

OK, now that I have read through all the pages, DaveS has done it, the same as what I'm doing with my Jeep.
As the track has MANY rivet points into the roof, it spreads the load over all the structural areas the original roof mounts attach to, "...and then some".

Basically the same as the X-Trail...
http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140727

On the Jeep, there is just two M8 bolts with no reinforcing, just crimped into the roof metal at each end under the plastic caps, holding the roof rail to the roof.These are known to crack the roof metal due to stress, rust, and leak water into the cabin.
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Not very confidence inspiring when loading a big alloy tray on!
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And with the tracks mounted, you can have as many cross bars or mounting legs as you like...spaced anywhere along the track you need:
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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


quote:

Garry Coates wrote:

Hi, this is a great topic and one I have followed closely in the past. I just wonder whether anybody has completed their project on adding a third rail.

Regards
          Garry



Hi Garry,

As a new member to this forum, you're kindly asked to make your first post in the introductions section of the forum before posting anywhere else. It gives you the chance to introduce yourself and your Exy and be assigned a Member ID. Thanks

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