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Date Registered: 03-2012
Location: Newcastle, NSW
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Much tidier in theory, but the two bolts/holes at the rear aren't designed to take the standard xtrail feet for any crossbars. The bolts are tiny and not spaced correctly for any type of product. Rescue1/Alan is a Rhino Dealer or something yeah? He could probably tell you that officially. If someone wanted to avoid doing anything obvious they could remove the plastic end of the roof rail and rivet the track section to the recessed rail area, then cut slots in the plastic end cap and fit it over the track-mount feet once installed. But using track is likely the only way to mount an extra crossbar to an xtrail; hence why it's never really been done/advertised. If it was as simple as removing the plastic end cap and using the existing bolts, every roof rack manufacturer would've done it and made their own product already. As far as I'm aware, I'm the only person who's gone to the effort of pulling off both of these end caps so I would encourage anyone else to have a look themselves.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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What I meant was to use the existing bolt "holes" rather than go drilling the roof to create new mounting spots. Am sure a bracket of some sort could be fabricated to attached to the existing bolts positions under those roof rail end caps and that is what the guy with T30 in your earlier pic has probably done.

I have also looked at these end caps (and what is under them) thoroughly when I had a T30 and was fitting an after-market roof spoiler there. The bolts are thicker than those used for the factory roof rails and they have a flat head, meaning they grab the plastic end-cap with the flat head and go through the roof of the car.

I don't think any roof rack manufacturers has actually bothered to explore this option, hence the lack of the 3rd roof rack availability, as the installation time (including pulling a section of the roof lining) is more trouble than its worth and will make this option an expensive one.

In any case, Max will soon find-out what exactly is involved himself when he has a look under the end-caps. Just go pulling them off or lifting them to have a look because the base which is attached around the bolt will crack.

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If you actually have a really close look at that T30 photo Jalal, you can see that the original factory roof rail end cap is still in place. The foot is actually seated "between" the two roof rails and not on the exisiting rail provision, which is likely employing a track-mount foot like I've mentioned. The shadow crossing the rear of the roof rail also implies that the crossbar (the part of it continuing past the mounting foot) is hanging over the roof rail and not mounted on it (like the front two). I thought I'd explained that way back when I first posted the picture, but it looks like I forgot entirely to respond to your initial comments after I posted the photo, so my apologies.

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No worries, all clear now and Max has enough information to embark on this task and let us know how he goes emoticon

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Date Registered: 11-2012
Location: Broome
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


it all seems very complicated for my post night shift brain to comprehend. will re look at it when im back in the swing of normal life haha, thanks guys


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Date Registered: 07-2012
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Hi all I solved the rack problem on mine by removing the factory plastic rails and replacing them with Rhino track so now I can have up to 3 bars on the roof and place them wherever I need them. At present I still only run 2 and have them set towards the rear of the vehicle.

It was a reasonably involved process, dropping the roof lining, unbolting the existing plastic and then riveting on the track but I think it ended up being a better look and fit than the original set up. The plan is to add a 1800 long tray at some stage in the near future to move more of the camping gear out of the cabin and free up some space.

I can post up pics if anyone is interested.

Cheers,

Dave

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Yes Dave, pics will be good. Thanks emoticon

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Definitely post up some pics. I've ordered the bits and pieces I'll need to start on my 3rd rack, so should finally be happening in the next month or so.

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Date Registered: 07-2012
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Ok Lads here's some pics of my setup. I forgot to mention we did need to remove some hard mount points from the roof, which we used a turbo disk on 5" grinder to do. I'm happy with it so far, I was intending to switch to a bigger rhino basket on RD1250 bars and RLT500 feet.

This first pic shows the track looking back from the p/s front.

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This is from the d/s looking down on the track

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This is looking straight on from the driver side.

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It's not a really tricky mod, and I do like the look of the roof with out anything sticking up when I take the bars off.

Cheers,
Dave

Admin Edit: Photos fixed.

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Date Registered: 11-2012
Location: Broome
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


$1800 wow, not cheap. Think I have found a solution to my storage issues when I get the roof top tent. Tiregate make a rear wheel carrier with dual jerry can mount that fits into the existing tow bar and swings away. It costs $1800 shipped to Broome so I might go that route. Keeps the weight low too

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