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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


19Kg is fine to carry on the roof racks, as they're rated at 70Kg.

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Date Registered: 06-2009
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


The Oztrail tents are supposed to be supported along their full length end to end, so that they do not get damaged or bent.

I have heard of people using cradles or pod type storage to support the full length of them.

And on the Patrols - they have gutters (still) so you can put as many bars as you like, or full framed roof racks on top.

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Date Registered: 01-2009
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


OzTent have pods available and they are not that expensive all things considered.

OzPod

I'm having discussions with them at the moment due to the overlap with products my business carries. If it works out I should be able to offer their products to full members at a good discount.


Getting back to the initial question it is possible to fit a 3rd bar to the X-Trail but it is not a very pretty solution as the bar would be mounted to the roof on the inside of the existing rails.

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Date Registered: 07-2009
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Hi Martyn

Did you fit the oztrail pod? did all work out OK? We have one and were hoping to fit it soon

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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Hi All

I know that the idea of a third roof bar on the spoiler mounts has been discussed previously and the general consensus was that it was too hard and unnecessary.

That aside a third roof bar is necessary for a project I am planning and I am trying to work out what the weight limit on a bar attached to the spoiler mounts would be. I know it's a major job but before I keep planning I need to know the weight limit so I know whether the project is viable.

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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Hi Ian,

The spoiler mounting bolts are not rated to carry any load, the roof rack mounts are rated to carry a load of 70Kg max. You can however fit larger mounting bolts under the rear caps of your ST roof rails and maybe look at re-enforcing the mounting from inside the roof with a flat plate which will be invisible when covered by the roof lining.

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Date Registered: 08-2009
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Hey guys,

Did anyone actually get to modifying the spoiler mount to fit an extra bar, or to support a custom roof rack or the like?

I've been thinking about doing something along these lines as well and have been frustrated with the lack of flexibility with the fixed spacing of the roof rack mounts. I only just stumbled across this discussion - I didn't realise the subject had been talked about previously!

If anyone has photos of the spoiler mount setup (minus the cover and spoiler, and possibly from inside?) I'd love to see them. Also, if you've spent some time building a custom roof rack using these mounts (modified), or some other method of fabricating a 3rd pair of supports, I love to see some shots highlighting your creativity emoticon

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To my knowledge nobody has really done this yet as there is no real support to allow for load to bear down.
Its not really practical as a rack would have to be fabricated to fit the rear some how, IMO, it would look really odd anyway and stick out like a sore thumb.
You could always give it a go yourself and see what comes of it.

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A better option would be to use a small pad mounted bar at the rear of the roof attached just inside the "rail", whilst it might not look 100% it is the best option I have been able to come up with after looking at the other options.

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Just some back from the Camping & Caravan show at Penrith and found this

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which might be another solution

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Date Registered: 08-2009
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Re: Fitting extra (3rd) roof rack


Thanks for the comments guys,

I'm not looking at simply installing a 3rd cross bar for long loads - like canoes/kayaks. I'd already thought about doing that by making up a custom frame using the two existing anchor points (with the plastic roof rack mounting inserts removed). That's another story, and as mentioned above, stabilising a canoe with ropes to the towbar and front tow points works fine too.

My wife and I have actually been working in Central/North Africa this year and the car is at home in Qld. Hence asking for photos with the details of the spoiler mount at the rear of the roof rails if anyone has them! As an engineer, I can't help always thinking about little projects and this is one of those (that may or may not ever eventuate). Here's some quick photoshopped images as food for thought.

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Don't think of these as finished concepts or anything close to that; they're just quick photoshop 'sketches' to get some of my vague ideas 'on paper' to help visualise them and stop the thought processes that otherwise go round and round in circles up there!

(L) smaller cage using similar dimensions to what you see with cross bars and baskets typical on exys; (centre) stretched rearward about as far as you could cantilever a frame without using too bulky sections or sacrificing rigidity (R) I guess what I'm getting at using some sort of 3rd rear mount.

Why? I've just been thinking about camping trips, or longer central/north Aus type trips down the track with kids in tow (another so far unfinished project - the kids emoticon ). So more stuff and less room in the car. In my opinion, an ARB style roof cage made and mounted right would look a lot less odd than the standard cross bars with a basket on top! I think the baskets look funny and sit too high, but that said, they'd be simple to put on and take off.

I guess I'm expecting someone to ask "why not just tow a trailer/camper?" I've thought about it, but haven't got as far as weighing up pros and cons of the different options in detail yet (and that'd be a different thread right?).

Any thoughts (esp. from other design and build types - think Dave and his rear wheel/jerry can carrier)?

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