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Date Registered: 08-2007
Location: Brisbane
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Well the engine is now stripped down to the head. Took 3 hours in all, would have been quicker
but there's always that last freekin NUT that just won't undo and yes you guessed it 'An Exhaust Manifold Nut'. Alas all is now ready to open this bag of worms and see what the damage is. A quick question, does anyone know the size of the Allen Key needed to undo the head bolts. YES an allen key. Thanks again Shawn,
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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Shawn,

I should have warned you about that exhaust manifold nut that is hidden behind the alternator.

The service manual makes no mention of what size allen key needs to be used. I can't find this information at all.

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Date Registered: 08-2004
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The old Datsun L series motors and heads used a 10mm hex, I have a Stahlwille "INHEX" 1054.
From the bottom of the 1/2" socket to the end of the hex shaft is 105mm.

I think I got it just from a Glenfords or somewhere similar, but if your really stuck chase down one of the SnapOn vans.

Also just check that the head bolts are not throw-away ones that need replacing, as on most modern cars - I haven't checked the manual myself.



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Date Registered: 12-2006
TOTAL POSTS: 37
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quote:

ommerum wrote:

Well the engine is now stripped down to the head. Took 3 hours in all, would have been quicker
but there's always that last freekin NUT that just won't undo and yes you guessed it 'An Exhaust Manifold Nut'. Alas all is now ready to open this bag of worms and see what the damage is. A quick question, does anyone know the size of the Allen Key needed to undo the head bolts. YES an allen key. Thanks again Shawn,



If you were in Sydney - I would've come and given you a hand.
I've done 2 Xtrail head gaskets in 1 week! One was my Mrs car, and the other my mates.

Have you got the head out yet? Both cars I did had warped heads, they literally had waves on the surfaces and the pistons on both were covered in water spots.

Goodluck! emoticon

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Date Registered: 08-2007
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Update...
It's a 10mm HEX needed to undo the Head Bolts...
Well took the head off this morning and had a look see. The left cylinder had 1cm of water and the next one had 1cm of water also. Upon undoing the head bolts i noticed that one of the bolts seemed loose compared to the [sign in to see URL] was also the bolt next to the cylinder with the most water in. The Head Gasket was in perfect condition and there we're no obvious cracks in the Head. I took it to a Head recon place and they've not got a plate to pressure test it 'Never done an xtrail before' but he did have a good luck at it and says the head is pretty flat and looks pretty good so upon his advice we're re-facing the head and putting the head back on. He did say that as i took it off myself it's worth just going for it and that the loose bolt was probably the cause, then the first cylinder forced water into second cylinder. There was also water in the other cylinders but more than likely from when i took off the head (dribble). I get it back on monday with a new gasket kit so fingers crossed..... more to come...

I must say the Xtrail head was one of the easiest i've worked on.
By water i mean coolant...
Cheers all, Shawn
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Hey Shawn,

Wouldn't a loose head bolt be considered a manufacturing fault and covered under warranty? I guess it would be difficult to convince Nissan that was the case, and I reckon even if they took the head off themself, chances are they wouldn't have told you one of the bolts was loose from the factory anyway...


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Yes Rich, i'm not sure as the car is an '02 model and i did buy it second hand. Can't wait til monday... Whilst i'm waiting would anyone know the make of the Nudgebar at the top of this site, Thanks Shawn...
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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Whilst i'm waiting would anyone know the make of the Nudgebar at the top of this site, Thanks Shawn...
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Off-topic, but that's the one Jalal has on his X-Trail - it's made by "XTRAK" - see photos of Jalal's here: [sign in to see URL]




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Date Registered: 08-2007
Location: Brisbane
TOTAL POSTS: 15
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Final Update...

OK got the engine back together and it kicked over first time, no problems at all. Just some White smoke from coolant in the Exhaust. Reason for the problem was a loose Cylinder Head Bolt.

Total cost for the job was...

$90 Re - Skim the Head
$187 Head Gasket Kit (or $107 if i'd waited to get one from Sydney)

Total = $277 + Oil & Coolant

Thanks Everyone for your help.. Cheers Shawn.
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Re: torque for nissan xtrail 2002


Just wondering if anyone knows where we can get hold of a manual repair and service book? Our xtrail is past 200,000km and we think it's blown it's 2nd head gasket. 1st was"fixed" in 2012.
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