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Re: wheel alignment
Hi Michael,
Wheel alignment, rotation and balancing is not done by the dealers, they take the car to the nearest tyre shop to have this done and in most cases you have to ask them to have this done.
Please refer to the Service Schedule
The 20K service does state that the need to "inspect" wheel alignment, this is only a visual inspection of abnormal tyre wear, which is what you had and they should have picked it up, rotation and balancing is only done if you ask them to do it.
If the tyre wear is excessive, you have the right to complain about their level of service, as it is part of the check-up list, no matter if it's done by the dealer or they take the car somewhere else to have this done.
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12/Oct/2007, 9:09 pm
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basshead
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Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: Panania, Sydney
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Re: wheel alignment
I've been doing my own wheel rotations and the BFG's have done about 45,000k's so far (fitted about 25,000 from memory (which usually doesn't work very well) and I've just ticked over 70,000). The passenger's front tyre appears to have noticeably less tread than the other three. The wear appears to be aven across the entire width of the tread (so I would assume the alignment is still OK, as a good sign or poor alignment is when the tread is worn more on the inside or outside of the tyre only), and I've never had a wheel alignment except for when the BFG tyres were fitted new. I'm expecting a "get a wheel alignment" reply, but wondered if I possibly have a "soft" tyre, and if anyone else has heard or experienced this phenomenon? I am aware that the tyre at that location is treated the worst as it's on the outside of right-hand corners which are usually taken faster than left-handers, and all the roundabouts on the road these days probably doesn't help!
Over the last 6 months or so I have noticed considerable high-pitched tyre-squeal around right-handers, even when taken very easily (which leads me to believe it's a wheel alignment issue). It tends to be louder or more obvious when the tyres are cold. The tyres never did this when new, and was one feature I appreciated when replacing the factory Toyo's... When new, they only squealed when pushed hard, and even then, it was more of a deep groaning sound rather than a high-pitched squeal.
I'll be doing a full tyre rotation this week, front-to-back and left-to-right, but if it's advisable to get a wheel alignment, I'll get the shop to do the rotation for me, to save me stuffing around for an hour with tyres when I could be washing the X-Trail instead!
Any criticism is welcome 
--- Rich. X-013(c)
'04 S2 ST Auto. Nudge_roofracks_tow_tints_Lightforce_GME_YokoGeoA/T-S_TBS_bashplate_50mm-spacer-lift
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12/Apr/2009, 9:41 pm
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cooch t31
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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
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Re: wheel alignment
Rich
The new style BFG All terrains are a softer compound than the older ones, ths style where the tread didn't come down the sidewall.
In my last Patrol with the older style All Terrains on I got an amazing 103000 out of a set, when replaced with the new style, managed to only get 78000 and they had less tread than the older set remaining.
Its very unusual that only one of your front tyres are wearing. It could also mean that a CV is on the way out.
Next time you jack the Xy up, check for wear by moving the tyre up down and side to side turning the wheel full lock one side to the other.
Then compare to the other side and see how it goes.
Keep in touch.
--- Tony X-891c
HERE is my D22 Navara
HERE is my old 2008 T31, ST Series1
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13/Apr/2009, 7:26 am
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basshead
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Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: Panania, Sydney
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Re: wheel alignment
Took the X-Trail down for a wheel alignment yesterday after fitting the spacers last week, and mentioned the more-worn tyre. I've had a closer look at the tyre and it looks like it's more worn on the outside than the inside, and the guy said it was likely the alignment was out, and it would continue to wear out the same even after the alignment was corrected, as part of the tread had already been worn out, and subsequent wear, while being even, would make it look like the tyre was wearing more on one side than the other due to the tread depth depleting.
I didn't mention to him that the last alignment I'd got was from there, or that it was when the tyres were fitted. I suppose it's just as likely possible I've hit something hard at some stage after the tyres were fitted, which has affected the alignment...
I should've taken the factory alignment sheet down from the other thread as he told me he adjusted it to toe-in slightly to compensate for the camber. I'm not too concerned, as he also said if there was a problem, to bring it back. I should've asked for a print-out of the final settings to compare it to the factory spec's...
--- Rich. X-013(c)
'04 S2 ST Auto. Nudge_roofracks_tow_tints_Lightforce_GME_YokoGeoA/T-S_TBS_bashplate_50mm-spacer-lift
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18/Nov/2009, 6:15 pm
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Re: wheel alignment
Rich,
I hope it was done using laser alignment because any of the manual alignment method used by some tyre places are completely useless and you will end-up going back again and again.
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18/Nov/2009, 6:35 pm
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basshead
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Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: Panania, Sydney
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Re: wheel alignment
The alignment machine was the same type as I've seen every other time I've been in a tyre shop over the last 15 years or so - it has cables connecting each corner unit to the main calibration machine. Whether they use lasers between each corner unit, I'm not sure.
I posted to the spacers thread that I have just noticed considerable "feathering" on this problem tyre. I will call Bob Jane tomorrow and see what they say. I suppose rotating that tyre with another will soon prove whether that corner is out, or whether it's the tyre now trying to wear "normally" against it's already badly-worn pattern. Interestingly I notice from previous posts in this thread that it was the front passenger tyre that had the wear problem, which after a few rotations, is now on the passenger's rear, where it didn't appear to be wearing any differently to any other tyres while being on the back. The tyre currently on the front passenger side is just the same as the other two good ones, and has no sign of uneven or excessive wear. I'll check my logbook to see when I actually did the rotations over the last few years...
I came across this: http://www.anwaninternational.com/tyreinfo1.html
Last edited by basshead, 27/Nov/2009, 10:20 pm
--- Rich. X-013(c)
'04 S2 ST Auto. Nudge_roofracks_tow_tints_Lightforce_GME_YokoGeoA/T-S_TBS_bashplate_50mm-spacer-lift
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27/Nov/2009, 10:16 pm
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Re: wheel alignment
Rich,
Save yourself the time and trouble and have the alignment done using laser technology which is precise and will work from the first time. The Bridgestone tyre centre place at Taren Point have the laser wheel alignment.
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27/Nov/2009, 10:21 pm
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cooch t31
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Date Registered: 06-2008
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
TOTAL POSTS: 5966
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Re: wheel alignment
Thats not too bad Rich.
I have seen some cases where one side of the tread block has worn down around 4mm compared to the other side.
I suppose it depends on where you drive, ie: freeway compared to twisting roads with a lot of corners.
--- Tony X-891c
HERE is my D22 Navara
HERE is my old 2008 T31, ST Series1
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29/Nov/2009, 6:58 am
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