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Date Registered: 08-2009
Location: Deception Bay Q.L.D Australia.
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Re: Handbrake Question!!


Hi Guy,s By the sound,s of thing,s i must have got a good one, why i say this is since day
           one when i first took delivery of my new Exy the hand brake has worked fine
           and reading some of these threads i just asked my wife what,s the hand brake
           like she said it,s good,(she drives it more then me)but then she did say she tried
           to drive off one day and the Exy was labouring she looked down and noticed she
           had left the hand brake on but apart from that it work,s fine just my 2 cent,s
           worth. emoticon
           Cheer,s

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While I was replacing my rotors and pads I thought I would take a few pics to show everyone the main parts referred to in the instructions for adjusting the handbrake.

Here are the brake shoes
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Here is the adjuster (note there is no rear access for adjustment while the rotor is on because it is blocked by the splashguard)
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Here is the rubber grommet which should be kept if replacing rotors and removed for access to the handbrake adjuster
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The T30 series 1 has a little rubber bung in the front of the disc assembly on the rear wheels.. After removing this (dont push it in, otherwise you have to completely remove the caliper and disc anyway, to find it emoticon ..just pull out with pliers) Use a torch (as you spin the hub) to locate the adjusting gear on the inside of the hub [sign in to see URL] you can use a flat tip screw driver, through the access hole, to adjust the handbrake shoes out or in as required. I hit the whole lot with Brake cleaner and compressed air as well, to clean it all up.

All I did was adjust it up until I couldnt spin the disc, then backed it off until it didnt grind.




After a high-pitched squeal coming from the left rear in the last week or two, I took the back wheel off to have a sticky-beak (found nothing unexpected apart from pads getting abit low, but noise stops when braking). I've been meaning to try adjusting the hand-brake via the back wheels so today I gave it a go on our T30 Series 2, but found as soon as I turned the screw inside the disc any more than approx 1/4 turn, that it was under spring tension and I almost lost it inside the disc. I only assume adjustment for tightening is in a clockwise direction for both L &R sides (I couldn't get the small adjustment to grab onto the disc to prevent it spinning and didn't want to turn the screw too many times in case it was too far). As I left the disc on to do this, I was unable to see how much adjustment I was actually doing. Hopefully I haven't over-tightened it; the handbrake itself seemed to engage about half-way up after adjusting the L side but then appeared to be back up near the top after adjusting the R side.

I'll see how it goes after the next drive, but I wouldn't be surprised if I need to remove the discs to be able to properly see how much adjustment is needed. Done 92,000km and hand brake (inside cabin) was adjusted last time well over 50,000 ago by Nissan (for as long as I can remember it's always needed to be pulled right up, then another click after taking foot off brake pedal).

Ooops - nearly forgot to mention - while rotating the disc around to find the adjustment screw, it got tight at the same position each rotation (either direction, and both L & R sides). I also noticed the rear diff slightly rise when the discs reached that tight position. I couldn't hear any unusual noises, but before unjacking back to the ground, I held onto both of the tubular sections coming out of the sides of the diff (that the small concertina rubber boots attach to) and there was about 1mm movement of this part of the shaft (particularly in the L & R (in & out) direction). I have no idea if that is normal, so if anyone else gets a chance to get under the back of their X-Trail, I'd appreciate if they could report back if theirs does the same. (It also does it while sitting back on the ground). I couldn't find my X-Trail User manual CD to check the correct way to do this.



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Rich,
the play in the axles from the wheel hub to the dif is normal, provided it isnt excessive. If the disc is binding at the same spot when spun, it may mean it is slightly warped. It could be machined, but with the amount of KMs on them, thay may need to be replaced.
The hand brake shoes themselves, may be worn down to the limit. You will have to take the discs off, to see if there is any meat left on them. If they are excessively worn, no adjustment will allow you to set them correctly.

If the squealing has just started in last week, and it isnt soemthing obvious like a stone shield rubbing on the rear of the disc it may be the bearing as I stated in the other thread.

If you can, pull the discs off each of the rear wheels, give it all a good clean and re-torque. If the noise is still there, (and pads,discs are in good order) the bearing is the next step.



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There seem to be a lot of handbrake issues here. I have had my series 3 for 3 months now, and my only complaint is the handbrake. I have to pull the handle into the back seat just to stop the auto creeping it forward at the lights. Any tips on what I should expect when I get it attended to at the next service?

This is quite disappointing compared to my old Navara STR diesel, but I guess its drum rear brakes make a difference.

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Hi Peter,

The dealer can adjust the handbrake for you, the standard is 6 clicks until full lock. My xtrail has been doing this since new, so I found that letting the car roll after putting in P (Park) and then applying the handbrake solved the problem.

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I don't know how I missed Kev's photos before my last post, but I took some photos of the hand brake adjusting wheel while I replaced my rear pads (and adjusted the handbrake). My previous attempt was wrong - the screws I was undoing were the ones keeping tension on the spring mechanism of the handbrake shoes, so I made sure they were correctly done up (90 degrees to the release tab on the screw) while everything was apart. Plenty of meat left on the handbrake shoes, and the handbrake now holds the car still on my sloping driveway with the lever just over half-way up (before it needed to be almost vertical emoticon ). The adjustment wheels needed about 6 turns (I don't think they'd ever been adjusted!)



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Date Registered: 06-2005
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I tried to get the caliper off yesterday to adjust the handbrake, but couldn't shift the bolts.
How do you guys do it?
Was also confused after reading some posts & the ESR. How many bolts are there to undo, 2 sets of bolts or one? I was trying to move the 17mm bolts, tried both a ring spanner & a socket with a hammer but wouldn't budge.
I had tried to adjust it without removing the disc, but could not see the adjuster thru the hole.

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Date Registered: 08-2011
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Put the front end on blocks (anything to stop it rolling) and then jack up the entire rear end. I did one side at a time and used car stands. This will allow you to spin the rear wheels so you can see the hand brake adjuster. From there it's pretty easy. Just try to adjust both sides the same amount.

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Just a whimsical/theoretical question for the AWD version T31:

In 2wd, would a handbrake turn set off all of the stability control measures and ruin the turn?

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