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Here are more parts to the puzzle guys...

As mentioned by AKAK9, there is supposed to be a CPU as part of the power window main switch (window lock switch on the driver's door panel ?). By looking at the schematic there are also 2 power connections, battery (terminal 3) and ignition ON (terminal 12) which would allow the CPU to time how long the ignition had been switched off.
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The next two pages show these connections and wire colours where they terminate on the main power window switch.
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So, the questions which remain to be answered are...
1. Can this CPU be located inside the driver's door window control panel ?
2. Is there a switch for enabling the timer function for the driver's window or do we have a different CPU without this function ?

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Maybe this is a feature that was left out of the Australian X-Trails as a cost-saving measure. It might be a "standard option" on overseas models - we'd have to get some input from some of our distant members, I think emoticon


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Kev,

I dismantled the main switch before (see it |offset=10]HERE) but I didn't pay attention to the CPU (if we have one that is)


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Jalal,

No photo somewhere of the component side of the circuit board I suppose ?

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Jalal,

No photo somewhere of the component side of the circuit board I suppose ?



Unfortunately no emoticon I didn't dig that deep when I dismantled the switch, as the button position was my the main reason for my little experiment. I don't feel like dismantling it again cause it was bit fiddly and all plastic that can break very easily.

If I find a spare main switch at the wreckers, I will be able to explore it a bit further.



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Maybe this is a feature that was left out of the Australian X-Trails as a cost-saving measure. It might be a "standard option" on overseas models - we'd have to get some input from some of our distant members, I think emoticon



Don't feel "left out" guys - not a feature on the Canadian version either...

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Don't feel "left out" guys - not a feature on the Canadian version either...



It'll be a Global feature enhancement if we succeed then emoticon


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Don't feel "left out" guys - not a feature on the Canadian version either...



It'll be a Global feature enhancement if we succeed then emoticon



Subject to cost emoticon

And the postal system emoticon





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Guys,

Bad news am afraid.

I decided to take the risk again and dismantled the main switch, only to find out that the circuit board is actually moulded with the plastic base and can not be removed/separated to reveal the components under it. The only was to do that is to crack the circuit board in half emoticon

Sadly this also suggests that the main switch is NOT a maintainable item and most probably is replaced as a whole if things go wrong and it also means we won't be able to add and/or replace any of the relays within the main switch.

We need to shift the idea of adding a time delay relay away from the main switch and probably closer to the power windows relay itself and the wiring there.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but at least it will save some of you the trouble of trying it again.

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OK so what will be the new objective then ?
Is the concensus to have the power windows operable in ACC or just for a fixed length of time after the key has been removed ?

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