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Date Registered: 01-2005
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Jalal,

Let it be - 6/2!

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Jalal,

Pass is $8.00 per day (or $30.00 for an annual pass), these are available at Tomteland - a kid's amusement park about five minutes north of Lavis Lane (one of two access points to the beach) - or at the service station, newsagency or hotel at Anna Bay, which provides easiest access.
I think we will enter through Lavis Lane and come out at Anna Bay.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Andre,

The practise trip I was proposing was to Boat Harbour @ Kurnell (same place Rich and Pete went to).

Have you been to Kurnell before?

I can't go to Stockton for practise emoticon

Are you still OK to go to Kurnell on 6/2? Call me on my mobile number (which I've sent you)

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Rich,

I just can't agree with that. Tyre pressure make all the difference in sand driving.
(for me emoticon)




In my two situations @ Kurnell:

First: My mistake was taking the slope at too slow a speed, and not driving straight-on up the slope - this meant that the two opposite wheels ended up having minimal contact with the ground (sand) and therefore ended up in the air.

The second slope (the dune), I braked at the top because I felt I was going too fast and didn't want to get airborne over the other side. Braking on sand isn't recommended, let alone on the way UP a dune. Unfortunately, I got the two front wheels over the edge of the dune, and the bottom of the car (chassis) was sitting on the top of the dune. I then tried to reverse down, but it's abit difficult when most of the weight of the car is already sitting on the sand emoticon I also ended up getting one of the back wheels off the ground in this instance - so I had only one wheel capable of driving, and it wasn't able to do much considering the circumstances.

I see it as both these situations being heavily affected by the "lack of articulation" - I think most people simply (and incorrectly, IMHO) put it in the "lack of ground clearance" category. It wouldn't have made any difference if I had super-duper mud tyres fitted - the fact that the wheels were off the ground (and lack of traction due to no vehicle weight being supported by those wheels) is the main problem.



Anyone can feel free to correct me if they think I'm wrong!


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I support Rich's view above.
I am not saying that dropping tyre pressures doesnt help either. I dropped mine on the day, because I am a bit heavier. The sand is pretty hard there, its a little different to say Stockton - also Rich has been there a few times so I am sure he has a good understanding of the place. But in both cases it wouldnt have made a difference.
In the first one : it was soft, on a hill and at the end of the day he got cross axle and nothing would have helped. That said my suggestion was that Rich should use LOCK it advance when it looks slightly difficult. There is nothing wrong with Auto, but auto is responsive so you have to be in trouble (well along those lines) for it to kick in. If he had been in lock he may or may not have got through that spot (but I doubt it - wouldnt have helped the fact it was probably beyond xtrail design) bet that gets me in trouble.
On the second one - it was my fault - I waved at Rich to slow down - but it looked as though I said stop. Once he lost momentum he got hung up - thats it. In the second one, although a slightly different approach, he made it.
On the other side of the coin, the fact we were together probably meant that we did things you wouldnt do if you were by yourself (althought there was nothing silly done either)

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BTW the reason I waved to slow down, was not Rich's fault. It was probably just a bit of nervousness on my part.
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And on saying all that, it was still an excellent experience and I was kinda looking forward to getting the snatch strap out of it's plastic shrink-wrap bag as I hadn't even opened it yet and that day was a good opportunity to do some real recoveries, even if they weren't anything serious. All the experience you can get is all good.

Thanks again for coming out, Peter. Like I told you on the day - I'd been before with Clare, but we took it nice and easy as I didn't want to get stuck that day (it was alot hotter back then!).


Getting stuck is half the fun! (unfortunately you were the one that got showered with sand emoticon ).


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Jalal
I will be unable to make it on the 6th. However I wouldnt be to worried about getting a practice in, you are going in a group with a few who have the local knowledge, so that is a bonus

Hey, you know my answer to most things, anyway, the best way to learn is do a Training Course emoticon

Sorry about that, but just spoke with Jude and we would like to look after something.
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No problems Pete.

I think we should be OK and in case Andre can't make it either, I will give it a go myself anyway.

I guess I will have to follow Rich’s saying:

"Getting stuck is half the fun!"

I've asked around at work today and was told that it's a good place for 1st timers and it's not that hard as long as you don't get too adventurous. I guess I wont be driving-up the dunes you guys did when there were 2 of you emoticon


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Hi Guys,

For anyone interested, Andre (russki) and myself will be heading down to Boat Harbour @ Kurnell this coming Saunday 6/2.

Anyone wishing to join us is welcome, either post here or send me a PM.

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I went for a drive this evening to Kurnell, just to see where this place is (sorry, never been there before, although I live only 20 mins from it)

Found it pretty easy, there is a road sign saying Boat Harbour 1Km a head on the road.

Looked at the entrance and it didn't look like an entrance to the beach at all. (it was dark so I couldn't make out much)

Anyway there was a sign stating that entry fee is $15/day or $75/yearly and it's open from 7am to 7pm.

I guess I'll be updating you guys on my 1st beach driving experience.

The shovel and radio is in the car and am ready for take off emoticon

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