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Date Registered: 11-2005
Location: South West WA
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4WD Problems


I purchased a new X-Trail a week ago. Took it onto the beach on Saturday in 4WD Lock. The beach wasn't too soft. After about 10 minutes the 4WD warning light started flashing and the drive went back to 2WD while still indicating 4WD. Stopped & read the manual. Continued and the problem repeated several times at shorter intervals. Have I bought a dud or is there an explanation? Has anyone else experienced this?

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Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: Panania, Sydney
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Franko, welcome to the forums!

This topic has been discussed in considerable detail in other threads. Can I suggest you search for "overheating" using the search feature in the forums.

If you haven't already searched, HERE is one thread.

Without me having to repeat replies here, I'm sure your question will be answered emoticon

Enjoy browsing the forum and learning more about your new X-Trail. You'll quickly discover it is a very capable vehicle.

Also update your details in the "Control Panel" so we can get to know more about you... Go into the "Change Miscellaneous Settings" and you can customise your signature and enter your location details, among other things.

Admin: Broken link fixed

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Date Registered: 11-2005
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Thanks Basshead,
I followed the "overheating" link. Didn't find anything conclusive. Most X-Trailers report no fault & a couple report the same fault as I experienced. Can only presume I have a dud. Very disappointing from a vehicle with 400km on the clock and a swag of good write ups. Should have stuck with my Mitsubishi Triton.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Also try this one: (although there's not much there)

http://com1.runboard.com/baustralianxtrail.fqa.t152

Or better still, enter "stockton" under the Events forum in the search function and it'll list about 10 threads and it will definoitely be discussed in more detail in at least one of them!



Basically, it's not a dud. You shouldn't be driving long distances or durations in LOCK mode.

Use AUTO mode for beach driving and only use LOCK mode for very difficult sections (steep dunes or soft & fluffy sand).



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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Hi Franko,

In the 3 years I had my xtrail (problem free) I've never heard of anyone in Australia getting a dud xtrail.

This however is completely different in other parts of the world, especially the diesel version.

I'm positive that you have overloaded your 4WD system and stayed in Lock mode longer than you should (as Rich has stated above)

When I was a Stockton, I have only used the Lock mode near the Ship-wreck (very soft sand) and stayed in AUTO for the duration of the trip, which was more than enough.

Having said the above and for added peace of mind, mention it to the dealer at the 1000kms free service.

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Date Registered: 08-2005
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Hi ppl when the 4x4 problems happen. Over heats is that in autos or manual
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Date Registered: 11-2005
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Hi Hicksy & Jalal,
Mine is a manual petrol version. I wasn't overloading it. It was on the beach, but the beach wasn't boggy. I'm hearing from lots of people that I shouldn't be in LOCK unless the going gets really sticky, but surely driving on a flat beach (not hard, not soft)for 10 - 15 minutes in Lock isn't "overloading". I believe there is a problem here. I've seen the previous correspondence on the issue. There are a number of X-Trailers with exactly the same problem. Heaps more with no problems. Next time on the beach I will compare AUTO only with LOCK and see what happens.Mine is in for it's 1000km service tomorrow. I will publish the response from Nissan.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Youyu may have read in one of the Stockton threads that Shane (titanx04, who now has a Patrol) had a manual X-Trail and his went into overheat protection sooner than everyone else on the same weekend...

Just to let you know I spent most of the time on the sand at Stockton in 2WD mode. The way you drive on sand plays a big part - you need to keep up your momentum and don't do any sudden changes or erratic moves, whether it be sharp turns or sudden accelerating or braking. It comes down to practice, and now with Summer coming up (some days it feels like it's already here!), I'm sure there'll be some days organised to go to Boat Harbour @ Kurnell (my wife is already hassling me about when we can go out there again) and that is a good place to practice your sand driving skills (if you're in Sydney, but unfortunately you're a bit far away emoticon ).


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Date Registered: 10-2005
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 I am a regular to the Stockton Beach area and used to live at Cronulla. (so Kurnell was my backyard) To date, no problems with the 4x4 system on the exee.
 
 As mentioned earlier, it is better to drive in the auto mode or if at low tide with a good section of hard sand, I even use standard 2wd.

 The issue on lowering tyre pressure also contributes to the engine overheating.

 I found the perfect tyre pressure to be between 16 and 18psi. This allows the tyres to bag and float over the sand ridges. Don't guess, buy a quality tyre gauge. I use 'staun' tyres deflators, where you can preset the tyres pressure and screw them on. They then release the air in the tyre to the preset pressure. There are four in a pack, so it's quick. www.staunproducts.com About $40 from memory.

 On the desert tracks, we vary between 20 and 22psi, due to the increased loads.
 
 If you try driving above this pressure, you will find that a small pocket of sand builds up in front of the tyre, causing it to try and crawl over this mound. This confuses the 4x4 system, increases the engine revs and also causing overheating in the transmission.

 If you try and go below 16psi, the rim will spin inside the tyre. Been there, done that. Not a good feeling.

 Try it out. Next time you are on the soft sand walk next to the front tyres and look at the mound of sand that forms there.



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Date Registered: 02-2005
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Just back from a fantastic trip to Fraser Island and Teewah beach. Another XTrail owner pulled up beside us (whilst we were sittng on the beach boiling the billy) because his 4WD light was giving him pain. He had left it in lock from when he came onto the beach. I suggested he did as I did - use auto all the time on the beach - I only used lock when starting off on soft sand.
We were only motionally deprived twice - but that's another story.
David M

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