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Date Registered: 07-2014
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^this guy haha

Okay, so I've decided to add a summary to the topic because trawling through a dozen pages for a definitive position on this is tiring (recommended however and well worth the effort).

T30 Summary

1. The existing 'tow points' on the front are designed for towing. They are more solid than tie-down points (being bolted as opposed to being welded), but are not considered to be rated. The point on the rear is a tie-down point.

2. You can recover yourself using these stock points on the front by winching or being towed out by a vehicle (provided that there isn't excessive load on them from being really bogged/sucked into mud/sand).

3. If snatching or you are really bogged, recommended to use two tow points in a bridle to distribute load.

4. It is highly recommended to replace the factory bolts with high-tensile bolts to reduce risk of sheared recovery hooks, especially if you are snatching or are going to be really stuck.

5. Replacing the actual hook is possible, but there may be difficulty in sourcing one that fits the bolt holes.

In all cases, placing excessive load on the points is not good in the long term. The monocoque chassis does not like that. A bridle setup will reduce the risk of chassis damage.

Have I missed anything important?




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Date Registered: 10-2006
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Recommended rear recovery is to use a hitch connector in the rated towbar mount.

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Date Registered: 09-2016
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If you look at the manual, they are specified as recovery points. Apparently the bolts need to be changed to high tensile.
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Date Registered: 10-2016
Location: Melbourne
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I've just bought a T31 and being a little paranoid about getting stuck have spent the past 4 weeks researching recovery gear.

This is my conclusion which may be useful to anyone who may be looking for what I was 4 weeks ago.

Firstly, you can buy a long handled shovel where the handle screws off. This fits in the left slot in the boot. Just about everyone agrees that a shovel is the best place to start a recovery and may be enough to get you on your way.

Secondly, I bought a pair of Tred 800 recovery trams. These fit in the left slot in the boot next to the shovel. I am hoping that 90% of the time a shovel and Treds will get me out...

Thirdly, I'm not mechanic but there is room for enough basic hand tools and other small fixing things in the flip top storage areas behind the rear wheels in the boot. I also had just enough room for a small socket set and a few spanners where the spare wheel is. I figure if I'm stuck because of something mechanical, if I can't fix it, then someone who knows what they're doing might be able to fix my car with the tools.

Fourthly, I need to get a towbar for rear recovery! A tow hitch with shackle probably won't hurt either. This is because there is no other way to recover if you need to pull backwards.

Fifthly, front recovery. It appears nissan engineers have given us a rating of 2 tinned per recovery point (2 underneath that are 900mm apart). My experience in rock climbing rigging says to get the highest rating out of these you need a 5m or 6m equalizer. 5m will be 92.6% efficient and 6m 96.1% efficient when pulled forwards (ie: not at an angle). This means t31's can achieve rated recovery points of up to [sign in to see URL] tonnes which should be enough. It has been noted that the existing bolts should be replaced with high tensile bolts to reduced possibility of bolts shearing off under load. As the xtrail weighs just over 2 tonnes a snatch strap of 5 to 6 tonnes should be used to maximize the stretch of the strap. Too high a rating will just pull and not stretch increasing chance of body damage. It is suggested to thread the snatch strap through the equalising strap. Make sure the vehicle doing the extraction takes it easy and this setup should work well.

Just straps make 5.5 tonne snatch strap
Just straps make a 6m tree trunk protector (equalizer)
ARB make a 5m tree trunk protector
3.2 tonne shackle are obviously going to be strong enough for 2 tonne recovery points

Hope this helps anyone looking to answer the questions common to all uninitiated.

Happy to answer question. Nick

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Essential to have some equipment. People are 1000x happier to help when you do.

In addition to recovery gear and some basic tools, I've added a set of Stauns (tire deflators), a good compressor and a battery jump starter as I have an auto.
With the correct tire pressure and technique you can get surprisingly far in 2wd.
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Date Registered: 10-2016
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Has anyone got any tips on how to get the bolts off the front recovery points?

Alternatively, any recommendation where i could go to have the high tensile bolts installed in melbourne?

I cleaned up the bolt head, sprayed with wd40 then tried spanners, ratchet, then impact driver and none of them moved the bolt in the slightest.

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Not sure if the T31 are really that different to the T30 but mine came off easily with long socket extension.

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