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Recovery Points


I am in need of info of anyone who may have added recovery points to thier x-trail..

Is it possible??
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Embi,

Even though the front points are only tie downs they are bolted in tie downs and can handle about [sign in to see URL] tonnes each...

For recovery I suggest you get a tree protector and do a load balnaced recovery off the front tie downs - this will give you about 4-5 tonnes of pressure for pulling...

To do the balance use a tree protector strap and connect it to both tie downs and then have the snatch strap in the middle of the tree protector strap at the front - will pull on both tie downs and out you pop...

I have used this for sand recovery being snatched by a forester and a mazda bravo - and they were going up hill in soft sand..

just make sure your shackles are rated for [sign in to see URL] tonnes....
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Drop in to an ARB store or something similiar and ask if they have fitted them to an xtrail. Hooks cost about $15 plus labour.
drvayro I dont disagree about using an equaliser strap for the reasons you state, I would however recommend using a purpose made/sold one. There may be problems if you have an accident and the strap manufacturer finds you were mis-using the tree trunk protector. The other advantage (i believe) is that the a proper equaliser strap is a more appropriate size then a tree trunk protector
For shackes I dont use anything below 3 ton WLL/SWL. That provides extra weighting - noting you are snatching a car out of something that got it stuck - so there is extra weight involved, it also means that you can use the shackles to assist other heavier cars if required.
cheers
Peter
On a final note, please check your own cars manual, if your manual calls them "tie downs" dont use them for recovery at all.


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Date Registered: 07-2004
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Re: Recovery Points


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petersxtrail wrote:

Drop in to an ARB store or something similiar and ask if they have fitted them to an xtrail. Hooks cost about $15 plus labour.


But isnt it a problem with these non-truck chassis, that the weakest point is where to attach existing recovery points or hooks to the chassis, so hooks wont make much difference ?
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drvayro I dont disagree about using an equaliser strap for the reasons you state, I would however recommend using a purpose made/sold one. There may be problems if you have an accident and the strap manufacturer finds you were mis-using the tree trunk protector. The other advantage (i believe) is that the a proper equaliser strap is a more appropriate size then a tree trunk protector
For shackes I dont use anything below 3 ton WLL/SWL. That provides extra weighting - noting you are snatching a car out of something that got it stuck - so there is extra weight involved, it also means that you can use the shackles to assist other heavier cars if required.
cheers
Peter
On a final note, please check your own cars manual, if your manual calls them "tie downs" dont use them for recovery at all.



I pretty sure my manual calls them recovery points. But like Peter says, together in an equaliser strap mode is the best way of using them.

The good thing about this set up is that even if one of your recovery points fails, the other should stop the snatch strap flying off as a dangerous missile.

Anyway, are you going to leave your xtrail stuck on the beach with the tide coming in just because the manual calls them tie downs?
You've got to hook the strap/tow rope on somewhere.


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Anyway, are you going to leave your xtrail stuck on the beach with the tide coming in just because the manual calls them tie downs?
You've got to hook the strap/tow rope on somewhere.



Geoff
Good point although here is an example of how it can go wrong though.
[url=[sign in to see URL]

although it wouldnt be a problem for an xtrail (they dont get stuck =D) and the points look fine (IMHO) but I have come across some cars where the points are simply metal loops and definitely just there to stop your picnic blanket fro flying away

cheers
Pete




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Re: Recovery Points


Back to Embi' origional question

quote:

am in need of info of anyone who may have added recovery points to thier x-trail.. Is it possible??



I just asked the guys at Taren Point Service Centre and they are going to check with some friends at Nisssan. Hopefully have something back next Tues.
I am also going to ask some guys at TJM and ARB for you.

At the same time I am plugging the xtrail forum, promoting its growth and trying to get discounts etc.

See Ya

(yeah its obvious by my posts that I am bored, but uni is building up and I am trying to get someone to run out to cameron's Corner with me for a week, so I might keep qiuet soon

Pete
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Thanks for that. I will eagerly await any news
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Re: Recovery Points


Looking at the OFFROAD part of the Xtrail site it says
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Each recovery point is rated at about [sign in to see URL]

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Where did this info come from? I had a look at those points and they are bolted in with 3 bolts. Looks secure but I want to be able to confirm the "Each recovery point is rated at about [sign in to see URL]" comment.
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embi wrote:
Looks secure but I want to be able to confirm the "Each recovery point is rated at about [sign in to see URL]" comment.



Cant recall exactly where that came from, but I remember it was widely discussed in other forum/newsgroups before this forum got started.

I guess the definitive answer has to come from Nissan. You local dealer should be able to give you the answer exactly.

There was also an article on soft-roader recovery points in 4x4 mag (or one of those), and I think the xtrail had one of the better ones. I'll try and track it down.



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Re: Recovery Points


Just checked the manual, and although it doesnt give a load rating, it does call them "towing hooks" for "Freeing vehicle from sand, snow or mud".


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