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Date Registered: 02-2004
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I am looking up GPS'es again in case I have the opportunity to buy one at the auction on the weekend.

I have quickly been looking at various ones and I noticed the two previously-mentioned website stores (listed early in this thread) are virtually the same price, although I did notice an unusual price difference for the Garmin Vista (which is one of the ones I'd consider buying) - on Prestige it's $479 and on ja-gps it's only $396. That's about $80 difference! Most others units are only a few dollars difference.

Perhaps one of them has an error/typo on their webpage?

I'll be seeing if any of the ones I'm looking at might be available on the weekend and will carefully listen to the prices...


I do have a question if anyone is able to answer - the units that have a 10hr battery life - do you lose all waypoints and data when you replace the batteries?

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To Answer your question straight up, the units generally do not loose their information when REPLACING the batteries. I wouldn't leave the batteries out but.

I have an old Magellan 315 GPS (very simple unit). It says when the unit turns itself off because of low batteries, it can store all the information for another month. It also says, when replacing the batteries to do it as quickly as possible, and not leave them out for too long.

Having said that, I left the batteries out for a week! And it still had all my waypoints and settings when I put them back in! I don't know if I have a freak of nature GPS, because that just doesn't make sense...


On to which one to buy.... I couldn't recommened the explorist 600 enough. But its pretty much at the pricey end of the scale. Plus you only truely unlock its potential by buying mapping software. Luckily for me, I saved $200 by getting my folks to pick it up for me in Hong Kong.

You really need to consider what you want your GPS for now, and what you'll need it for in the future. Also make sure it has an accuracy display! My old 315 never did, so it was a bit of guesswork looking at how many satellites it can see to determine if my fix was accurate or not.

I've used the Explorist 600 for a couple of country runs now, and I found it very nice in locating caravan parks (I like camping) and other things whilst on the road. In fact you can actually type in an address, and it'll put a waypoint there for you (but you need the mapping software for this). It also has an electronic compass in it, which is very handy for geocaching as you get closer to the point.

The biggest plus was the expandable memory for me. If you going to want maps (particularly topo maps) and don't want to be hooking it up to a PC a lot to load/unload maps, then you'll want more than the simple 16MB or 32MB. Having said that, the lower south west of WA fits into 11MB of memory, so you be able to get buy without the expandable memory.
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Hi Guys,

I have an Garmin etrex which has been really good. Picked it up on ebay for $140 while it is basic it is waterproof, can be hooked to a IPAQ for mapping using a program like Destinator or Oziexplorer.

I have used it for mountain biking, canoeing (great to see how fast you are going while you are paddling) and then downloading the trail.

Good stuff!

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Hi Guys,

I have an Garmin etrex which has been really good. Picked it up on ebay for $140 while it is basic it is waterproof, can be hooked to a IPAQ for mapping using a program like Destinator or Oziexplorer.



I take it that's the basic entry level model which has a RRP of $199.

While there weren't any GPSes at the auction (I checked the auction inventory list on Friday) it has been good to have a look at various model's features so I know what to look for in the future (I'll keep my eye out for any sales that might eventuate, or I might even end up buying it duty-free when I got o/s to America early next year).

I don't necessarily want one that gives you directions for city streets (I can read a street directory) but more for co-ordinates when I am using a printed topo or state forests map (I'm sure I've already mentiond how reliable I think they are!). That way at least I'll know exactly where I am on the map when I'm lost!

Other features like being able to upload map data? Not sure if it's necessary if I've got a printed map in front of me?! Things like altitude wouldn't be necessary either, and I think they'd all come with a compass (although some of the higher-end models come with an electronic compass, but surely one without it wouldn't be too far off?!).

I'm probably looking in the middle of the range - Garmin Etrex Legend/Summit/Vista, and Magellan Explorist 210 or 300 (all around $400-$500 as quoted on Prestige)


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It is the basic yellow - runs on 2 AA batteries. I have a cable that powers it and an ipaq in the car for street navigation.

The features are basic but all that I really need...from a compass point of view you need to be moving for the compass to work - I think this is because the GPS needs to know what direction you are facing/travelling to figure it out.

It is fairly low res and does not have mapping built in. The PC synch feature is good if you use a program like oziexplorer as you cn scan a map, calibrate it and overlay you travels on the map.

The track back feature is good for biking on unfamiliar trails (you know if your going in circles and you can find your way back if needed.

I have also bought a little bluetooth gps unit to connect to my PDA - strictly for in car use.

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Note GPS units are a bit like audio equipment, you pay for what you get. Some of the more expensive units are vastly better to use and navigate with. Always go with the unit that can read as many sats as possible, it's more accurate

I've used Garmin, Lowrance, and few others and from my experiance the Garmin is the best value for money and most accurate.
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Thats right, you need to pick a GPS unit that suits you and the way you envisage using it.

I previously used a Ipaq and the old 315. I decided I wanted them combined, and hence the mapping type GPS unit (and hence empty wallet too!).

Paper maps are easier to use than the ones on a small screen, so I totally agree with you there on using them! I just use both emoticon

Altitude is almost useless as it requires constant calibration - therefore you need to fine points where you definately know the height.

The electronic compass is extremely useful for me though. I do geocaching, and sometimes you need the accuracy to stand 10 metres from your waypoint, and simply rotate the GPS to get the right direction to go. As someone said, without an electronic compass, you need to move to get a direction reading, which I know from experience is damn annoying for geocaching - but if you don't need that kind of accuracy, then you don't need it emoticon

A few of my friends have similar requirements to you, and they are looking at mid range units as well, similar to the ones you listed.
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Thanks Col - it sounds like I'm on the right track, then.

AJ, it goes without saying that your theory probably applies to the majority of all electronic (and otherwise) products available on the market. I like to shop around and get the best bargain, but without scrimping on quality. So if I can get the identical item (brand name and model number) cheaper somewhere else (ie: duty free) and it's legitimate (not a parallel import, or fake, or worse - stolen), then I'll buy it.


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Rich,

I think you can also consider looking into a GPS navigation system rather than a handheld GPS receiver for the price range you are considering.

I am not a big fan of a standalone GPS navagition system, I rather have a unit that can be a PDA, GPS and mobile phone.

If you already have a PocketPC, PALM or even a PALM phone, you'd easily load it up with TomTom software and coupled it with a Bluetooth GPS (<$100 on ebay), and with a detailed NSW country map ($30), you should not get lost ever again in a minefield of fire trails.

I have been using such system (costs about $600) for the last few outings, and it has not disappointed me so far. The GPS map has all the fire trails (include their names) in Blue Mountain and Barrington areas for example. The GPS accuracy is about 5 meters I'd say, but it is very accurate once you are on the move.

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Thanks William.

I just assumed "navigation" style GPSes were the ones that had the "street directory" feature, which I don't need. But if what you're saying is true - that they have 4WD tracks (as well as normal streets?) then perhaps this is the way I should go...

I have an old PDA - it's a Palm "m100", that runs on 2 AAA batteries, it's memory size isn't upgradable, and it doesn't have any connector apart from the serial cable. It's very old and I haven't used it for over a year. I had nightmares trying to syncronise it with the PC under Win98. I don't think it would be suitable/compatible due to it's age.



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