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Date Registered: 12-2004
Location: Central Coast
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with the 17" wheels he would not add any increase in height due to low profile tyre unless he increased wheel size and remained with same size tyre which i doubt would have ben done.

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Date Registered: 12-2004
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Jalal,

Just enlarged those pics and there is a bit more height than what I thought, would like to catch up with him where does he live.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Jalal,

Just enlarged those pics and there is a bit more height than what I thought, would like to catch up with him where does he live.



He lives here in Sydney, not far from me.

Mal just sent me an email saying his working on his log-on, so we should see him here soon.

I told Mal, that everyone is waiting for a confirmation on the 45mm lift that he achieved and how emoticon



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Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: Panania, Sydney
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Definitely looks like 45mm lift - I know the larger rim diameter might make it look lower than what it really is.

Correct in saying that the rim diameter has no effect on the height of the vehicle (unless you fit incorrect size rubber).

Height is measured accurately by measuring from the centre of the wheel hub to the top of the wheel arch, before and after the springs/shocks are changed. We could get Mal to take this measurement and compare it to any of our "stock" ride-height X-Trails... I've also been told in the past that you also need to allow a week (or so) for the springs to "sag" (settle) with the weight of the car.

I am curious as to how much the ride quality is affected by the taller springs. I would seriously consider it as my next upgrade as I think I've reached the limits of the X-Trail as far as height is concerned (a few bottom-outs, but no damage) and I think an extra 2 inches (almost) would be a massive improvement if ride quality isn't adversely affected (like when you lower a car, it is a much harsher ride - lifting might have similar results).

I've done spring-changes before, and would be willing to do it myself to save some $$$. Lowered spring sets are usually about $125/pr, so <$300 for a set of 4, whereas fitting might double the cost. I don't mind if it takes me a day to do it emoticon

(upon re-reading the thread, prices seem fairly similar to what Swagman posted earlier in this thread, but the $50 price to fit each spring seems like a bargain - especially as they would probably do it in 1/4 the time it would take me to do it emoticon )

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Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: Kureelpa, Sunshine Coast, Qld
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Hi Rich

This would be on my list of things to do also given that I now plan to keep the car for another 2 1/2 years (to 5 years old). My only query would be what the lift does to the steering / driveline geometry of the vehicle.

Any thoughts?


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From what the others have said there is not much effect at all, when I spoke to pedders they advised there is alot of work to replace the springs, I think someone has done this themselves if they could add a reply would be good.

Lift is my next option as Rich would varify the side step copped a bit of a hammering the other week. I will measure height today as well as height of the step.

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Shane,

Mal has made to our main page and he posted some pics in there (including the ones I posted earlier) as well as pic of his exy parked on the street.

The pics can be found [url=[sign in to see URL]

He probably haven't noticed the forums emoticon

Will get in touch with Mal and let him know about the forum section.

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Date Registered: 12-2004
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Just measured the Height of the following and got approx.

Side Steps- 240mm
Centre of Wheel to Arch 440mm

Exhaust is lower again but due to only using ruler couldnt get the height.

Can someone measure height of there xtrail from ground to Sill to indicate difference with the step.



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Date Registered: 04-2005
Location: W'Bool,Victoria, Australia
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Hi Guys

I have the Track Ryder springs fitted to my Xtrail, I had them fitted in Feb and there was only One Choice of springs, and I also checked on Pedders web site to confirm what the dealer told me.
I was quoted that the lift I could expect would be between 25mm and 40mm.
When I measured the lift after the springs were installed I had 30mm lift at the front and 35mm at the rear.
The ride is certainly a lot stiffer than before and when I load up the vehicle I loose about 10 mm of the lift in the rear and 5mm at the front as the springs compress. This brings the lift to about 25mm greater than the standard set of springs.
Hope this info helps you.

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Date Registered: 02-2005
Location: Geelong, Victoria
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Guys, I have installed a set of King Springs to the car which gave it around 25mm lift all round. Did the job myself but if you don't have access to a spring compressor & rattle gun to undo top nut on strut forget it! Much safer to have it done professionally. $200 is a fair price for the work involved, took me around 4 hours to do. As for being a difficult job, definately not if you have the correct gear. Easiest way to measure lift is to use a tape measure & measure from bottom of rim (not tyre) to wheel arch. Remember 25mm lift is 25mm more ground clearance on independent suspension vehicles. I have done 10,000 k's on mine & believe contrary to pedders advice that the struts do need changing, as there is not enough rebound damping on original struts & tend to bounce & top out(Vehicle done 16,000k's).
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