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I disagree that it is a tyre thing really-emoticon.
I believe it is more driver behaviour and the xtrail design.

We had both At and Toyos it didn't make a difference. When I drove I did it all the time - when Jude drove it never happened. Most likely in 2WD Mode - the great little but powerful xtrail donk is throwing everything into the two front wheels, but if you are just taking off it can cause wheel-spin. (more notable when taking off and going around corner or in wet - I assume less traction or resistance for the tyres)

From memory this is also one of the reasons for the original design of the All-Mode 4WD system - to better control the power that was being sent to the rear wheels of the Skyline GTR (RWD). So they made the All-Mode 4WD system to better redistribute the power to the front wheels and provide better control.

So Jude would accerarate at a nice constant sensible pace and thus it wasnt evident. For my "give it a bit more" driving style - Auto Mode was far sensible and stop me "looking stupid and doing burnouts" (well a bit less stupid ) emoticon

So changing tyres to a higher traction may reduce the issue as mentioned - it really is cheaper and easier to change driver behaviour to suit the great donk and maybe use the good Auto mode.
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To be honest you could have removed the Auto Selection switch in mine because I think I only drove in normal mode for the first week emoticon - it spent the next three years in Auto (damm good system that may help you get out of trouble when needed)
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Agreed Pete emoticon

The amount of chrome accessories and the 15KG bash-plate I have on mine also helps reduce this. hehehe

Not saying I can't do it when I "want to" emoticon

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Pete,

I stoped using the auto mode in the dry a while back, because any extra power distribution to the back wheels will cause an increase in fuel consumption.

And you know my driving habits as you have seen them first hand, emoticon. I don't have any problems in the dry on bitumen in 2WD mode, with my almost fully bald Bridestones.

I do however switch over to Auto anytime that it is raining or even if the raod is slightly wet.

Cheers

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Pete,

I stoped using the auto mode in the dry a while back, because any extra power distribution to the back wheels will cause an increase in fuel consumption.



I have read others say that as well, but I have to admit I am not sure why that is the case . My reasoning is that in Auto it is only on demand - so once the sytem detects it isn't required it will revert to 2wd. Also it is only redistributing the current power (or torque) from the front to both ends - not increasing power.






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Pete,

The better fuel economy in 2WD mode over AUTO is only vaguely being mentioned in the owners manual book (page 4-18 and 4-19) where it labels the 2WD as "Economy Drive"

I have tried both, but running in AUTO mode constantly did affect my fuel consumption a bit (not much though) and I didn't see a need to stay in AUTO mode at all times.

Sorry to say this guys but we (myself included) have all gotten a bit off-topic here when this thread was posted as an Intro. and Welcome emoticon

We have an existing thread ]HERE about which Mode to choose and a good description of each mode and this is where we can continue this discussion.

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