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Date Registered: 10-2006
Location: Mona Vale, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
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Re: Start up noise


Chris,

Maybe this little 12V buzzer from Jaycar might be what you are looking for.
Jaycar AB3452
Here is an example of how you might wire it in to the oil warning lamp FOR A SERIES 1 Xtrail.
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Since you have a 2006 ST-S, someone else with a Series 2 service manual might be able to help out with this mod for yours if you are interested.
If the buzzer is too loud then you could put some tape over the holes to muffle it a bit.

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Date Registered: 08-2006
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Dunno if this is the same thing, but in the S1 xtrail, i get a sort of "PSSSST" sound just after starting up...
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Date Registered: 02-2004
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quote:

OCCxlr8ed wrote:

Dunno if this is the same thing, but in the S1 xtrail, i get a sort of "PSSSST" sound just after starting up...



This is normal and it's the ABS self-test. You should get worried if you don't hear it.



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Date Registered: 11-2008
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hey dudes, bit of an old thread but just thought id chuck in my two cents worth

im pretty sure the noise we are all hearing is NOT oil related. its belt/pulley related.

when i installed my headers (which involved the removal of the alternator) i noticed the noise was completly gone after.

heres my thoery from a bit of mucking around before and after:

because when rubber is cold it is hard and in a contracted state (when compared to being warm that is) the belt is slightly shorter and stiffer, and as a result, pulls on the tensioner. the tensor idle wheel is a wheel on a spring loaded bracket that allows for some movement in both directions - thus keeping the belt tense. so when the engine bay is cold (cold morning etc..) the belt with pull on the tensioner and pull it out of the normal place. the rattling noise is simply the idle wheel spinning in a position that the engine's not used to, or the belt itself freeing up due to being stiff and hard. also someone mentioned that the noise is on the right side of the engine bay - where the alternator is.

im not 100% sure on this, but i gave everything a check over and tightend up some bolts (i went on a locktite spree when i did my valve screws - no screw was safe emoticon ), and i havnt heard the noise since!

thats just my thoery anyway - either way nothing to be worried about since many people have experienced the problem with no ill-effects to date (touch wood)

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Date Registered: 03-2008
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Hi Guys,

my 2 cents.

I am sorta having a battle with Nissan atm, in regards to this cold start up rattle noise that only happens in second gear for me for a time period of 2 - 3 mins. They are saying that my oil pressure is low, there might be a problem with the timing chain as already suggest by another member on the forum.

They want to dismantle my whole engine and take my car off the road for 2 weeks to fully diagnose the problem. I think its great they really want to solve the problem. But then they might try pin the cost on me.

I might try some full synthectic oil and see if the problem goes away.

The car still feels excellent to me, pulls well toes well. so I guess i just have to wait and see.



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Bruce,

They won't pin the cost on you if you agree beforehand with them that all such diagnostics would be covered by the Nissan warranty and the dealer has received a formal authorization from Nissan to do so.

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Date Registered: 11-2008
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Hi guys, I find I have a noise too, to me it sounds like the starter is continuing to spin to start the engine, I have not noticed it to be any mechanical problem to worry about and as such have not consulted Nissan about it.
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Date Registered: 03-2009
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That's nothing!
You should hear the X-trail start at -55 with wind chills.
It pretty much rattles for about 10 minutes till she warms up.
We plug em in to the 120 volt outlets on our house to warm up the block heater.
Takes a good 4 hours to warm it up, but it still moans and groans for a bit after starting it.
I have started mine at -45 with out being plugged in.
It fires up ok.
The heater takes a week to warm you up though.
Ok ok....maybe not a week, but a good 15 minutes or more.
At +20's it still makes a noise for a bit after starting, so I guess its normal.
I still love my X-trail though.
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That can't be good for the engine Brad.
Do you use thicker oil for the winter months ?

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Date Registered: 06-2008
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i believe this has been discussed in a few other threads, when you start the engine if you hear a rattle noise for 1-3 secs it will be your timing chain slapping the guide and/or your oil pump making the noise, this is because the engine oil towards the top of the motor drains back into the sump so there is low/no oil pressure at these components til the engine is cranked over a few times (the colder the outside temp the thicker your oil will be and longer it make take to get oil to these components, like the difference between a milkshake and a thickshake being sucked though a straw). although there is an anti drainback valve in geniune and SOME aftermarket oil filters to prevent this from happening it still happens every now and then. some top of the line europeon cars have an electric oil pump that primes and builds oil pressure before the car is started (much like a fuel pump) then it cuts out once the engine is started and the mechanical oil pump takes over.

if any of you are talking about when you turn the key to accessories or "ON" and you can hear a buzz/electric humm coming from the back of the car, this is your fuel pump priming the fuel system (with most fuel injected cars after you change a fuel filter you should turn the key on and off a few times to use this priming stage to fill the new fuel filter to avoid excessive engine cranking)

sorry about the novel but my 2 cents

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