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Date Registered: 01-2007
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Hey all,

Thanks for your great install instructions for a series 1 nudge bar. I have recently had a go at putting it on myself but have struggled. Thanks to your detailed description and photos I have realised that the second hand nudge bar I bought (not off a dealer) is without top and bottom brackets. My local dealer is willing to install my nudge bar and provide brackets for around $300 LOL but the brackets and bolts are not available as a seperate part!!

I was wondering if anyone had CAD drawings or specs for the brackets for a series 1 nudge bar. I am thinking I would make up some brackets but I am struggling just from the photos I have found on this forum.

This may seem like a little dodgy and a slightly left field request but it is worth asking.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Hi Simon,

As the mounting brackets form THE most important aspect of the structural design of the factory nudge (and any nudge for that matter) and it is what makes these nudges pass the air-bag tests, I would NOT recommend to have the brackets copied or manufactured elsewhere, as you would risk your insurance claim if the un-thinkable happens, but more importantly, you will be risking your life.

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Date Registered: 10-2005
Location: Orange. NSW.
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Simon,
 Have to strongly agree with Jalal on this one mate. I remember when I fitted my nudgebar last year, I commented on how much weight was in the bottom brackets. They are very tough. The top ones are only supportive brackets, but the bottom ones are extremely heavy duty and not something to play around with. Perhaps Jalal could find you a set at his favourite playground. I still have the paper template here for marking the holes you have to drill into the plastic fender and also the bracket for drilling into the main crossmember. Let me know if you want to use them and good luck.

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Date Registered: 11-2006
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Hi guys.
 I`m thinking of getting this bar on sale over here in the UK. I like the idea of the axle plate protecting the bottom of the rad and a/c rad. I have notice mine as got some small impact marks, from stones.

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Dave,

This is a top quality nudge bar, BUT please make sure that it is certified for air-bag compatability before you buy it. The seller needs to confirm that to you and it should have a sticker proving that.

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Date Registered: 11-2006
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Thanks Jalal
 I will check that.

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Date Registered: 11-2006
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I have just had a reply from 4x4 Direct and the nudge bar dosn`t come with any certification regarding air bags. However thier advert says it`s suitable for X-Trails upto 2004. What are the implications and why would it not work in the same way as the factory nudge bar. emoticon

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Sorry to hear that Dave.

Yes, it will be suitable for the xtrail in terms of fitment and mounting points but because it has NOT been tested with the airbag functionality and has not been certified, you will be under constant risk with this nudge bar on. The risk is that you wouldn't know if this nudge bar and its mounting brackets will trigger the airbag sensor/s when needed.

Secondly and because it has not been tested for airbag compatibility it may actually trigger the deployment of the airbag with a slight bump, meaning the impact control for airbag deployment will not be working correctly.

Finally, if you're involved in an accident where the airbag should be deployed and it didn't, your chances of securing an insurance claim will become zero if they do a check and find that the nudge bar you have fitted is not airbag certified.

Accessories like this should never be imported if they don't have this important safety check and the manufacturers overseas need to know that, as good quality doesn't always mean, top safety.

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Date Registered: 11-2006
Location: Rotherham UK.
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It`s a no no then. Just as a matter of interest where are the air bag triggers fitted.

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Dave, yeah, I would strongly advise against [sign in to see URL]

]HERE is an existing thread where I have posted the location of the airbag sensors and how they're triggered.


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