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Date Registered: 06-2017
Location: Canberra, ACT
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Reprograming ECU for new transponder key


Hmm, maybe "ECU PIN" wasn't the correct term?

Program Immobiliser Key - allows to register the Nissan transponder keys with the Immobiliser Note: The immobiliser security PIN CODE needs to be known. Initially all registered keys will be erased and all keys will need to be reregistered.

Video - Programing Transponder Keys with Nissan Datascan II

And it appears the Android version works with the Bluetooth ELM OBD II readers too? I have both an ELM327 Bluetooth and the VAG-COM cable OBD II interfaces anyway.

Considering I was just quoted at the local locksmith $145 just to clone my current key chip onto the new key chip from my local locksmiths....$70 for this software is HALF the price of doing just ONE key!

For USD$99 I can buy a Key Cloner myself and go into business!


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2004 T30 series II, Ti (now sold)
JRR50 Pathfinder, QD32ETi Turbo Diesel, with 'lots o fruit'.
2012 Jeep Cherokee KK CRD Limited is current ride.
Will be looking for a white or silver 2011-2013 T31 TL (Diesel) to "pimp out".
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Yeah that's different but I doub;t Nissan will give it to you. They want to make money emoticon

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Re: Programming Transponder Key chip / immobilser


A little bit more info. So the local dealer says they can't give me what another Nissan tech calls the "POIJ codes for keys" as that would breach their delaer agreement.

But I argued "It's MY car, I own it, Nissan have no right to withhold this information from me". To which we both agreed I could contact Nissan myself and see if they will supply it directly to me.

It also appears the majority of the 30-60min labour charge for programming the Transponder chip keys to the Immobiliser is to get this code from Nissan. Actually programming the keys only takes 5 mins.

(Connect cable, start software, hit ‘Re-program’, enter PIN (POIJ) code, put key in ignition, turn on for 5 seconds, turn off & remove key, next key in, turn on for 5 sec, turn off, done.)

My source also said that Consult II sometimes doesn't need the POIJ code, it just "does it". Makes me think Consult II has the codes in a database and looks up the code automatically when it gets the ECU/VIN from the car on interrogation when first connected? That or it just has a special "bypass/master" code?

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2004 T30 series II, Ti (now sold)
JRR50 Pathfinder, QD32ETi Turbo Diesel, with 'lots o fruit'.
2012 Jeep Cherokee KK CRD Limited is current ride.
Will be looking for a white or silver 2011-2013 T31 TL (Diesel) to "pimp out".
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Re: Programming Key Transponder Chips in a T30 II


OK, here's the 'rundown':

Locksmiths use a Key 'Cloner' to copy the transponder chip code in your current key to the new key. Your car doesn't know one key from the other. Both keys appear identical to the car. They charge an extortionist $140-$160 for 2 minutes work, (Put original key in cloner machine, read original and save code, remove original and put new key in cloner, clear new key, write original key code to new key, done.) Using this method you can have as many keys as you like because the immobiliser thinks they are all the same key anyway and doesn't know the difference as all keys have the same code.

Nissan use the Consult II Software to program each different key chip code into the car immobiliser, limited to a total of 4 different key codes at a time from what I can see. They need to get the immobiliser date code and encrypted PIN code off the immobiliser, put this into a decryption program in the Nissan Mainframe and get the PIN code, then go into the Consult software and using the PIN code, have the immobiliser 'learn' the transponder chip codes for each key, and save.

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2004 T30 series II, Ti (now sold)
JRR50 Pathfinder, QD32ETi Turbo Diesel, with 'lots o fruit'.
2012 Jeep Cherokee KK CRD Limited is current ride.
Will be looking for a white or silver 2011-2013 T31 TL (Diesel) to "pimp out".
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Re: Re-Programming Keyless Remote DIY Guide


Dear All,
The only intelligent key of my ex Japan Nissan X Trail 2008 Modle NT31 2,5 Litre X grade was lost three weeks ago at a friends garage. We had to find a locksmith who opened the door. Cut a new small key (Bought from Nissan) that goes into the smart key remote. Programmed the chip using his handheld machine. We did not buy the remote as the locksmith said that old remote of similar type will work. He programmed a remote which is Nissan but has three buttons (Mine had two buttons). This new remote has managed to work except only one feature. One can no longer move the ignition unless you remove the small metal key from the fob and insert into ignition. It does not recognize that remote is in the car and allow the ignition to turn to ACC to On and start without inserting the small key. One can lock and unlock the doors by either pressing the lock and unlock buttons on the fob or black plastics on the doors and boot. I have also noticed that if i use the key in the morning or if the car was parked for a while, it takes a few presses before it works to open. The lock smith says that it is strange as when the fob is programmed, that function should work too. I will appreciate if someone can shed some light or give some ideas. I have also spoken to Nissan dealer tech who works on Consult III and showed him the codes that were used by lock smith. He promised that he will look at the programming using Consult but he didn't get chance to do so till now. A bit disappointed as i would want to restore my smart key function.
Thanks in advance

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Hi Guys,
I have a 2012 Nissan Xtrail T31 Ti Model.

I need to organise a spare key as my mrs has misplaced the spare. Has anyone go through this for this model? There seems to be to many variables.

So far I have worked out the following

The key is a proximity key. Has a backup key also which I found out as a Chip 46 (transponder) and can work without the main proximity sensor to start the car.

I was going to buy a blank key (traditional) and have it cut but it seems I still need a transponder. I noticed eBay sell transponder chip 46. However will this still need to be programmed and if so how?

I have also found out that the proximity key need to be brand new and not second hand.

In summary what’s the cheapest option for my model to get a spare?

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