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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Looks like a perfect fit Phil. What is the purpose of replacing the factory spare wheel cover with plywood? Is it to make-up for the 10mm height difference you now have on the floor or for added strength to transport heavier objects?

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No jalal, the idea of replacing the wheel cover is that I have used piano hinges on it & made it so it can be opened (lifted) without having to undo the cargo barrier lower bolts to access the under floor area(wheel well)! Makes it usable for everyday items & I have also installed my big red air compressor in the well also, as you can see in the top left corner.

Cheers Phil
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Fair enough Phil, so basically you just didn't want to drill the factory cover to have these hinges fitted on it instead, cause it would have done the same job. Makes sense.

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I actually have 2 factory covers & may attack one down the track but because of the ribs in the factory one it was easier to fit the hinges to a ply one, also it's a bit stronger & easier to mount fridge slide to. Cheers Phil
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Hi Phil,

I am pretty impressed with your handy work with the battery set-up and the swinging bike carrier and was wondering if you would be so kind to put a DIY Guide for this for the benefit of all members of this forum?

I'm pretty sure it will come in handy to many members (and visitors) of the forum and will add to our great collection of guides.

There is no rush and you can do this in your free time and I can help you with it if you like.


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Phil.
 You have beaten me to this idea. emoticon

I was just measuring up this compartment for fitment of a yellow Optima battery, as it will fit perfectly. I am very interested in how you wired it up though. Please post some more pics and as Jalal mentioned, a DIY (wiring diagram, relay included) would be appreciated.

 Regarding your 'Big Red'. For our WA 2007 trip, that is one the cards also and thanks for the idea of where to install it. I may run a permanent line to an outlet, with an external switch so I dont have to access the wheel well to get to it. But thanks.


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Phil, that's an excellent location for the 2nd battery! Very out-of-the-way (and now you have more storage in your old battery drawer, too!).

One comment I feel is important to make - You really should have some sort of protection on the +ve of the 2nd battery. It's no good just relying on the main car fuse to protect the cable as it's at the other end of the car/cable - if that jack becomes dislodged for whatever reason, and cuts through the +ve cable next to it, you're looking at a very possible fire. You could use a circuit breaker and cut a hole in the plastic floor to access the circuit breaker if ever needed. The hole could be above the battery, and closer to the front of the car in the piece of plastic (looks like plenty of room to mount one there).

Also just out of curiosity, what are the physical dimensions of that Orbital battery? I have a spare Odyssey 1000 I might be able to squeeze in there emoticon


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Brett, I am using a Piranha DBE150S isolator which is still serving me well after approx. 10 years in various 4WD's. With regards to the Big Red compressor I haven't had time to finalize where to run the outlet to, more than likely it will go to behind rear seat as it will keep connections free from dust/mud & it's not utilised very much these days. Don't want to get too excited and spend a lot of time as it(car) will be replaced early next year with this below when it's released!
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Compessor has had a lot of work over the years with heaps of runs to Robe/Beachport in sand, very happy with it.

Rich, this particular battery is an Exide orbital, which is very similar to optima but possibly cheaper, not sure? As for the cable situation I haven't quite finshed/tidied up the installation as yet but it is a double insulated circ orange with split conduit over it as well so it's fairly well protected. As for the circuit breaker I don't really like automotive ones as they are only a bi-metallic strip which when it cools down after an overload situation closes back on the fault & can tend to open & close due to vibration on corrugated roads. Will install a fuse instead. As for dimensions too bloody cold to go out & check will inform later on.

Cheers Phil
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For a second, I thought you're referring to the exy replacement there (not what you're going to get) LOL

Landy Owner (Change of brand too). Hmmm Good luck mate emoticon



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I am planning on installing a dual battery setup exactly the same as in my old patrol. Piranha sell a tray for the xcy for about $135 and say it mounts passenger side under bonnet. Where can it possibly fit? Has anyone got a dual battery setup in their xcy? I will use my redarc solenoid which never failed me in rough outback driving for years and heavy heavy cable between the batteries with maxi fuses on each end....the best setup from years of experience with dual batteries. Comments?


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