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Date Registered: 08-2008
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Ok, now move inside and take apart the lower dash around the fuse block. Up above the steering column is a brown relay block. This is used for the illumination on a genuine switch.



Hi I was wondering if some one could exlain what the brown relay holder under the dash is for?I read that this is for the genuine switch? So does that mean if the relay was fitted here this would be used to control the driving aditional driving lights?

If so why is there a spare relay holder under the bonnet in the smaller relay enclosure? the one which has "H/LAMP RH" http://img140.imageshack.u/my.php?image=dsc01993a5by.jpg
Or in my case it has "D/LAMP" written on it? (in the same position)


Just wondering which relay holder would be for the additional driving lights?
I ordered a relay today from autopro for the engine bay relay holder (store man believes it is a narva 20A mini relay) hoping to install driving lights at a later date

Should I need to also order a relay for the brown holder which is taped up along my steering colomn?

little confused atm emoticon
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Date Registered: 10-2006
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What Xtrail do you have apache7 ?
I may be able to post an extract from the service manual showing you where the relay goes and what the wiring for it is.

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Thanks Kev
I have a 2006 Series II T30 X Trail
Do you need any more info?
many thanks again
Ray
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Date Registered: 10-2006
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OK, here are the pages.
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It looks like there are actually 2 relays you will need to get, one in the engine compartment relay box and one in the passenger cabin. There is also a fuse you will need to make sure is installed in the fusebox.

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WOW Kev!!!
Thanks SO much!
The drawings make things so much clearer,
where do you get these drawings, I bought a service manual CD from EBay but it doesn't show any thing like that at all kind of info emoticon
 
Sweet! alls I need to do now is to find a switch from some where, and oh yeah and a nudge bar to mount them on lol
many thanks again guys

BTW Kev, went fishing down the dam today and landed couple of real nice rainbows today (catch and released)

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Got the Electronic Service manual from the man who knows everything about Xtrails emoticon

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Hey Kev
Im having trouble locating the cable which the oringinal driving lights plug into the harness?
in your 4th image http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=series2drivinglamps4ji1.jpg
can you tell me where abouts i should be looking?
I found 1 plug socket with 2 cores on the passenger side behind the air box,
there is a plug socket with 3 cores behind each main driving lights
Theres another plug which sits just in front of the radiator fan
(but I dont think any of them are it cause none of them cores meter back to the clean contact of the relay box)
acording to the wiring diragram it should be a plug with 2 cores (white and white with green strip)

I worked out if you put a link wire with spade lug connectors on either side of the brown relay socket which sits along the steering columb (looking at the socket the two horizontal LHS sockets) you can make the driving light relay pull in when the lights are turned on.

So its just a matter of replacing a the link wire with a nice switch!
I found a relay which fits straight into the nissan relay enclosure, Narva micro relay Part No. 68062BL

from looking at the drawings the reason for the brown relay socket under the dash is just a latching relay which pulls the negative of Driving lamp relay (Micro relay) to ground for it to actuate.

Just cant find the actual driving lamp active wire????
im sure its there some where lol
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Date Registered: 10-2006
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Hi apache7,

The wiring for the driving lamps go to the roof emoticon because it is actually for the lights in the hyper-roof rails.

For your driving lights you will have to splice into the white wire coming directly off the E14 relay in the engine bay.

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Jusyt read this again and realised it dosnt make any sence!!
sorry few too many beers whilst on computer lol (sorry)

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I worked out if you put a link wire with spade lug connectors on either side of the brown relay socket which sits along the steering columb (looking at the socket the two horizontal LHS sockets) you can make the driving light relay pull in when the lights are turned on.



What I wanted to say is>
If you place a bridging wire (spade lugs on both ends of wire) across the left two horizontal terminals of the brown relay socket (on steering columb)
When the lights are turned on and the High beam switch columb switch is flicked on,
this will operate the micro relay in the smaller relay enclosure (E73)

So after you work this out you can replace the linking wire with a switch
(PPL if your not sure about this, I suggest use a meter first,this may save you some fuses)
The 20Amp Narva Micro Switch only cost me $9!

But it sounds like I will need to just splice into the switched wire from the relay (White with red)
to my new driving lights,

Will have to see if i cant pop the wire out of the relay socket and redirect a new wire to the front of the Exy

many Thanks again Kev
Ray ! (cheers) emoticon
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Date Registered: 11-2008
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I'm looking to install some Narva Ultima 175 driving lights on my exy over xmas holidays, but am not sure whether to go with a ready made "plug 'n' play" wiring loom (expensive but easy), or buy the components and make it all up myself (cheap but fiddley). In order to decide, I need to better understand what is required. emoticon

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From what I've read, the Piranha (standard $70) and Nissan ($150) ready made wiring looms plug straight into existing wiring, without any need to fiddle around. But don't you still have to manually connect into the high beam wire? I believe neither one of these looms comes with a panel mount switch to fit down near the electric mirror controls. These are about $15-20 extra. Will these looms fit any kind of lights (ie. Narva Ultima's)? Does anyone have experience with the Narva ready made loom ($118)?

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Does anyone have a simple circuit diagram that shows what is required (the dummies guide, with pictures)? I'd also be interested in a list of materials required, as I don't intend to have a good look at the situation until xmas, when it will be difficult to find parts shops open if I discover I need anything else. Is there soldering required, or simply crushing spade connectors etc? As I would have to go and purchase a soldering iron specifically.

Apologise if parts of this has been covered previously, but it may be worthwhile bringing it all together for the benefit of the next person as well.

Thanks people. emoticon

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