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Re: Poor vehicle earth/grounding
Sorry to disappoint you Phil.
You should have participated in the live chat where MANY actual users of this kit CONFIRMED what I have stated earlier. I was only conveying a message that was passed to this forum by participants of the live chat and it would have been good to have you on board to prove MANY wrong if you believe in it so strongly.
Nobody noticed any increase in power as claimed by MANY sites and manufacturers of these kits.
The statement "it is indeed a myth" were the exact words I took away from the international live chat session where we all agreed it actually was. (in terms of giving increased power and being a performance enhancement)
I don't need to do this mod just to prove the above point correct, first because my xtrail doesn't suffer from having dim lights, second, because I don't see a huge and evident problem with idle and/or acceleration which would justify me starting to scrap and strip paint.
The ONLY reason I will think of doing this mod is "cosmetic" to have the engine bay look a bit pretty with those colourful cables dangling around 
For your information the xtrail has MANY more grounding points inside the cabin than those externally which you have cleaned, are you planning to get to these too?
By no means am stopping anyone from this forum or otherwise from going a head with this mod and everybody is entitled to their opinion
EVEN KIDS!
But for someone or for many manufacturers to claim that it is a performance enhancement, sorry, this won't go down well and the pretty graphs they're showing on their web sites with increased HP is nothing but bait advertising!
Will I try it? maybe (if I find some nice looking chrome cables)
Will I claim increased HP as a result of this mod? Highly doubt it!
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27/Mar/2006, 7:30 am
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BRETT72
X-TRAIL HOLIC
Date Registered: 10-2005
Location: Orange. NSW.
TOTAL POSTS: 1999
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Re: Poor vehicle earth/grounding
Phil,
If you check back in this topic, I stood out front and copped it from all angles, defending the value/worth of the grounding kit....BUT, it is not a performance enhancement. Brighter lights, smoother idle, faster power windows (LOL), are not 'performance enhancements'. I was involved in the livechat and even copped a bit of flack there too, but the end result is that it is not a 'performance enhancement'. I believe it does what I claim it does, but my car does not go faster and my fuel efficiency was not effected.
I love my cables and enjoy the looks on other exee's owners when I pop my bonnet (or is it the strut bar, or maybe the engine cover that gets the attention).
So to answer your question, I have fitted them and I have also researched this topic extensively via the numerous other QR25DE other Sentra forums. They are mostly of the same opinion, no noticeable performance gains.
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Jalal said, Will I try it? maybe (if I find some nice looking chrome cables)
What about the cable I gave you at Hi-Tech, it wasn't 'chrome' enough.
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27/Mar/2006, 8:35 am
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Re: Poor vehicle earth/grounding
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BRETT72 wrote:
What about the cable I gave you at Hi-Tech, it wasn't 'chrome' enough.
I can only consider it chrome when the sun reflection makes me close my eyes from not being able to look at it. hehehehe
But thanks for the sample anyway and thanks for your honest opinion
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27/Mar/2006, 8:54 am
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he22wa
Date Registered: 08-2010
TOTAL POSTS: 34
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Re: Poor vehicle earth/grounding
Hi peoples 
Old thread I know but I just installed Pivot grounding kit. I was a bit skeptical at first but it positively, definitely and genuinely works 
I bought it a year ago and installed it in my Honda Odyssey 1998 and didn't see the difference.
So recently, I took it off and put it in the exy.
Right after I installed it, I took it for a drive and my word, the throttle response has improved dramatically, the engine feels beefier and now the tranny wants to change gears. yayyyyyy 
Previously on highways and freeways when I want to overtake and WOT the car seems reluctant to shift down from 4th to 2nd or 3rd. So most of the time I have to shift it down 'manually' to '2'. The grounding kit seems to have solved this problem. I'm very satisfied and happy 
I know there has been a debate on this topic in previous pages and I don't know if it will work as effectively on Australian exies. The reason I say this is because my exy is locally built in Indonesia and they always will try to find ways to cut down costs aka 'downgrade'. That is why my exy is in the absence of the 4WD system. It came from the factory with small batteries, lack of sound proofing and groundings. Anyways this is my experience. Good luck peeps
Regards,
Hendra
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My Mods: CAI with 3A Filter, Pivot Volt Stabiliser, Audio System, OBX Power Crank Puley, Kansai Headers, Iridium Spark Plugs, UniChip Piggyback ECU, Red Calipers, Twin Tip Muffler, Alutec Strut Bar.
To Do: Under body Brace
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15/Sep/2010, 1:09 pm
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Re: Poor vehicle earth/grounding
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he22wa wrote:
Hi peoples
Old thread I know but I just installed Pivot grounding kit. I was a bit skeptical at first but it positively, definitely and genuinely works
Hi Hendra,
Do you have a dyno proof showing the before and after power and torque increase after fitting the Pivot Grounding kit? You have claimed a substantial torque gain in one of your other posts and I would be most interested in seeing it on a dyno chart (but on your xtrail, not from the Pivot website).
It doesn't matter where the car was built, they share the same engine, transmission and wiring points, so if it didn't work on a number of xtrails in the world for other users of this grounding kit, am surprised that it did for you.
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15/Nov/2010, 7:20 am
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he22wa
Date Registered: 08-2010
TOTAL POSTS: 34
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Re: Poor vehicle earth/grounding
It didn't add power, it just made the lights a little brighter, more responsive throttle and the car wants to shift down a gear or two. The extra power/torque came from the unichip piggyback=)
Regards
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My Mods: CAI with 3A Filter, Pivot Volt Stabiliser, Audio System, OBX Power Crank Puley, Kansai Headers, Iridium Spark Plugs, UniChip Piggyback ECU, Red Calipers, Twin Tip Muffler, Alutec Strut Bar.
To Do: Under body Brace
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15/Nov/2010, 12:09 pm
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Re: Poor vehicle earth/grounding
No worries Hendra, I must have mis-read your post in the other thread which gave that impression
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15/Nov/2010, 12:38 pm
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