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Date Registered: 10-2005
Location: Orange. NSW.
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Poor vehicle earth/grounding


 Whilst I was having my new Hella 181's hooked up, the electrian told me that the X-Trail has a poor earth/grounding system. He also made mention that there are upgrade kits on the market and this can improve engine performance due to an increase in available current and voltage ???

 Has anyone installed a new grounding system and does it have any effect.



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I agree with the electrician assessment and have been looking to get one of these grounding kits myself:

I've been browsing the net looking for new performance mods and I came across the Grounding Kit mod, which seemed pretty affordable and effective.

The 2 brands I came across were Activetuning and Pivot

The gains claimed under this mod are pretty impressive and include the following:

* Increase Horse Power & Torque
* Enhance ECU Efficiency / Engine Performance
* Stronger & Faster Starts
* Smoother Idle
* More Responsive Acceleration



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Checked out the 'Activetuning' site. It almost seems too good to be true.

I have just sent an email away to 'Activetuning' to gauge if there are any stockists here, or the price for it to be shipped here.

I also enquired into group purchases and if they will offer any discount if a few of us bought a set.

Please let me know if you are interested, so I can give him a 'rough' number when he gets back to me.

Jalal, if this come off, would you be prepared to be the official contact for us members. You are more central then I am and you have the trust of the forum with $$$ etc.

I will keep you all informed.



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Yes Brett, you can give them our Admin email account (admin@australianxtrail.com) and should there be enough interest and the price (discount) is good, I will organise a group-buy in a similar way to the strut bars.

I wouldn't expect all of the listed performance enhancements to be true, but I wont say no to improving the grounding in the exy (especially with my up-coming mod which will draw lots of amps and power) emoticon

I'm in for this mod.

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JALAL,

 Here is the reply from Activetuning re the grounding kit. Am I right to tell them that the Nissan X-Trail engine is the same QR25DE engine that is in the Nissan Sentra SE-R ??? Do you know if the layout is the same. I tried checking the SENTRA forum and they do appear very similar.

Hi Brett,
What car in Australia is it for? The grounding kits we have aren’t made specifically for the QR25DE, but more specifically the 2.5L Altima and the Sentra SE-R. So I’m not sure how we can guarantee fitment…..Any thoughts?
Nobody in Australia stocks our products, as we only sell direct at this time.
I could prob give you guys a discount depending on how many you order (plus you’d save a bunch in shipping costs)….but lets figure out the fitment stuff first.
Let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Dave
David Pitlyuk - Partner & Head Of Marketing & Sales
Active Tuning - The shape of performance
http://www.activetuning.com




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Hi Brett,

Yes, The engine and the lay-out is the same as Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V

HERE are some pics of the Sentra engine bay.

Please note that I found new Nismo Grounding Kits selling on eBay for $80AUS (delivered) so their price needs to beat that. emoticon

Nismo is a well known Japanese company for performance parts.

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I just looked them up and they look spot-on. I like the idea of the main neg(-ve) battery terminal connection. I think I might just go for them, when finances allow.

Just got to work out the correct and most beneficial grounding points.

 
Gotta go, my wife has just bought the car back and I'm gonna spray the disc calipers a nice shade of red.

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A thought on this guys, I was in d*** Smith Electronics at lunchtime picking up some more nylon plug and sockets for my audio install, so I had a look at cabling. You can buy thick, single core, multi strand cable for around $3.80 per meter and packs of 10 connectors for around $3.

If you can identify the earth points then it is going to be much cheaper to make them yourself!

- Adam



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Has anyone got a schematic of the earth points? I can probably figure out most of it with a multimeter, but I'd like to see a 'formal' layout of the QR25DE.

Here's a link to the ebay page (US) for anyone who's keen.


(EDIT) URL tidy-up.

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Here you go Joe (Have fun) emoticon



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