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Date Registered: 12-2005
Location: Quakers Hill, NSW
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Re: Key in ignition key beep disable - note


Thanks for your additional words of caution Jalal. I also beleive that anyone donig any mod on their car should be aware of possible consequences and fully understand all risks involved. I have an electronics / electrical background so feel confident up to a certain point. That's why I am asking lots of questions and gathering info - so I can make an informed decision.
Personally I think it is pathetic that Nissan force you to put up with this idiot beep. I firmly believe that this sort of thing will become a serious problem in the future in that people just won't know how to think for themselves, they just rely on systems.
Also thanks to Gordont for your additional input and I hear what you are saying re possible effects on other systems. So I will just have to perform some additional tests.
I am starting to now think that the best solution would be to just kill the actual beeper itself - or severely mute its output. This way there should be no undesireable side effects.

Anyway as i stated I will report back with outcome.

Thanks once again guys for all your assistance ( multiple heads are definately better than one, I say !!!!)
Cheers,
Craig

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Date Registered: 12-2005
Location: Quakers Hill, NSW
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Re: Key in ignition key beep disable - note


Hi Guys,

Well I am very pleased to say that I have finally and permanantly disabled the key warning beep.

Jalal the diagrams you gave me were good however the main problem was that the wiring harneses are not accessible to be modified.

In the end I treated this annoying beep like any sort of cancer removal - I removed the chime / timer unit, dismantled it and de soldered the piezo beeper from the circiut board. I now have all my door switch wires re connected back to standard and will never hear that beep again - yippee !!

I took some photo's of this operation showing the location of the chime / timer unit and where the beeper is located. Overall this job took about 1.5 hrs.

Cheers,
Craig

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Date Registered: 02-2004
Location: SUTHERLAND, SYDNEY
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Good stuff Carig.

Well, that is another way of doing it I guess LOL emoticon

Just remember that the person you sell your exy to, might and could be a "beeper fan" hehehe

If that happens, how easy do you think it would be to solder back the beeper and have it operational?

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Date Registered: 12-2005
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Hi Jalal,

I'm not concerned about the beeper at resale time as it will probably be traded and more than likely not even be noticed.
FYI. I kept the beeper ( even tho I wanted to smash it !!)and also cleanly desoldered it so would be very easy to reinstall.
Cheers,
Craig

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Fair enough Craig emoticon

Look forward to see the pics of it's location.

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Date Registered: 12-2005
Location: Quakers Hill, NSW
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Hi Jalal,

Here are the pics ( all going well !!)

You will see that the box is located right up under the dash.

Cheers,
Craig



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Excellent stuff Craig.

Thanks for the very informative pics.

These will now be added to KIY Guide= Kill It Yourself. hehehe emoticon

Seriously though, will add it as Option 2 for disabling the chime in Series II.

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Date Registered: 01-2006
Location: Wollongong
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Hi all,

I've found a simple, non-destructive way of disabling the key-in-ignition beep - just unplug connector M9.

Ohhh, what's M9? It's a little 2-pin plug in the wheel column, connecting the key-in-ignition switch to the wiring harness back to the 'Time Control Module' (that which beeps). (Can you tell I've just received my copy of the service manual? :-)


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Unplug that little connector and you'll forever be at peace with the door open.

One thing that threw me when looking at this is that the manual says this wire pair should be 1) Red and 2) White w/ Blue stripe, but it omits the colour change past M9 (both red w/ black stripe as I recall). And of course there are other white w/ blue stripe wires in that area...

BTW, removing the steering column covers is easy, but just make sure you undo all the screws - there's one screw in a deep hole on the left-hand side of the column.

Ben

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Thanks Ben, Am glad you finally got the manual emoticon

Are you sure thing M9 plug doesn't control something else? like the engine immobiliser for example?

Have you checked that after you un-plugged it?

Finally, can I get to this plug without removing the steering column cover?

This is turning into a very simple DIY which is great.

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Date Registered: 01-2006
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quote:

Are you sure thing M9 plug doesn't control something else? like the engine immobiliser for example?

Have you checked that after you un-plugged it?



Yep - according to the manual, this connector's pin 1 is 12V from the fuse block via a couple of other connectors, and Pin 2 is direct (only) to the Time Control Unit.

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The Time Control Unit doesn't seem to really do anything "critical" - it controls the door lock actuators for remote locking/unlocking (under command from the separate remote control unit), dims the interior lights, beeps when you leave the headlights on, that knd of thing.

The immobiliser's a separate unit, and the sensor for it is the ring around the key ignition. Once you get the steering column cover off you'll see a little box sitting on top of the ignition switch, with a plastic ring attached that encircles the key. That's the immobiliser (or "NATS IMMU" in the manual). I've read a little in the manual about this device, pretty fancy. It even hooks into some models of radio to store radio settings per-key (driver), and presumably other things like electric seat settings...

I've taken the car out for a drive - all seems well, and not a bloody beep to be heard :-)

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Finally, can I get to this plug without removing the steering column cover?



No, you've got to remove the cover. The plug's right underneath the ignition switch itself.

Ben

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