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Date Registered: 05-2006
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Mods and warranty


G'day,

Yesterday I took my exy into a niisan dealer for some work and asked a few questions on what mods I could do and how they would affect the warranty.

Changing to iridium spark plugs they said would not be a problem.

When I asked about a K&N air filter they said that it could have an "negative impact" on any warranty claim concerning the engine but stopped short of saying it would void it.
They main concern that a K&N air filter does not filter as well as a genuine Nissan one.

When I asked about twin exhaust however, they said that this would most definately affect the warranty and if both the Air filter and exhaust was done the any warranty claim for any engine problem would be void.

I was not to concerned by their comments until I went to pick up my exy later that day and noticed in the notes section of the computer screen that thay had recored that I was considering these mods and that I had been advised by them that they would void my warranty.

I now regret asking them.

Funny thing is I was looking at the new Nissan Murano and noticed that it has a single muffler just like the exy but fitted with twin exhausts.

I dont know if all Nissan dealers would have the same problem with these mods but It may be wise to check first as in most cases if the dealers workshop says the mods are the cause of a problem then Nissan will probably take their word over ours.

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Hi John,

Thanks for sharing with us your dealer experience.

It not only limited to Nissan or the X-Trail. ALL car manufacturers do NOT look favorably at any non OEM part that is added to the vehicle.

In saying that, had every car manufacturer started to include performance enhancement parts in their cars, the price of these cars would have been MUCH dearer to what we're paying for them now!

To this affect NO dealer is authorized to give you the green light for ANY type of modification that involves a replacement of the factory OEM part with an aftermarket one.

This is a known policy for all car manufacturers and they will be leaving themselves open to claims should anything go wrong.

Common sense and research proves that some performance modifications would not harm your car in any way, this includes air and oil filters as well as spark plugs. Had these parts been restricted to OEM only, Repco, K&N and the rest would have gone out of business emoticon

Of course Nissan would claim that the filtration process of the OEM air filter is good, but would they admit the restrictive nature of that filter OR the cost for replacement when compared to other well known and proven brands? I guess not!

In regards to the exhaust, the twin system which is a Catalytic Converter Back system has no impact whatsoever on the engine and the factory set-up. You're only changing pipes and the shape of the muffler. This has never caused any ramifications to any factory exhaust system. Again, this is a very popular mod and done by most owners (while under factory warranty)

Personally, I have done all the above modification while under warranty and had a recall carried-out as well and asked the dealer if they would prefer to receive the car with everything factory fitted to it before they can accept it. The answer was, don't worry about it, cause these modifications are OK.

The FULL exhaust system replacement which involves charging the extractors and cat. converter is a more serious one indeed and it will affect your warranty for sure should anything go wrong. I agree with the dealer about this mod, as you have started to change engine bolt-on parts.

I guess it all depends which dealer you speak to and I had a guy come back to me and say that his Nissan dealer told him that even the full exhaust replacement was OK, I said, I don't think so mate emoticon

The other important aspect of modifying your car is ensuring that your insurance company would cover it. I think this is even more important than the factory warranty.

Details about that can be found in the existing thread HERE

So in summary, I would say don't believe everything the dealer tells you even if it is what you want to hear emoticon

Do a research instead and see what other drivers running with these mods say and assess the impact on your car before implementing any mod.

As we say here on our forum:

Happy & Safe Modding! emoticon

P.S. I you do decide to wait until your warranty runs out to implement simple mods, by that time you may not have the car to drive anyway. hahahaha

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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One thing I think is worth mentioning is that any modifications you do would need to directly relate to the item/problem being claimed against warranty. Like Jalal said, changing the exhaust isn't usually an issue - they wouldn't be able to prove the non-OEM exhaust caused a bent conrod or other serious internal engine failure (unless they could prove a part of the exhaust broke off and entered the engine, which as you're probably aware is already a (rare) issue with the first OEM catalytic converter).

However, sometimes even Nissan gets it wrong - I know a guy who lowered his car so much and drove it so hard that one of the CV joints broke. Nissan replaced the CV joints under warranty as the original springs had been put back in before he took it to Nissan. It is obvious the extremely lowered ride height adversely affected the CV joints, but because the car was in original condition (when Nissan inspected it) they couldn't prove that it was or had been lowered. If he turned up with the lowered springs in it, I could guarantee Nissan would've refused the claim under warranty.



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Here are some links relating to this subject.

A nice and informative read indeed emoticon

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