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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Am not sure of the terminology Ron, in this case my question can be re-phrased to state which maps are more accurate (Whereis) or (Route66 using Navteq maps)? emoticon

After using my GPS for a while now, Whereis maps and this GPS seem to be fascinated with bloody King Georges Rd, every route I take it tries to take me via King Georges Rd. LOL emoticon

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Date Registered: 08-2005
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Hi Guys,

A couple of thoughts come to mind. Firstly there is the accuracy of the GPS receiver itself (how many satellites it can receive, antenna sensitivity and the type of terrain you are in - paddocks or between skyscrapers). I'm using a solar Bluetooth 32-track unit that gives me around 3m accuracy out in the open. My e-trex used to give me 11m and my N95 jumps around, averaging about 20m (but hey, I've only had it 2 days and am still learning).

The next bits are the software engine and the maps. The maps vary in quality and do contain intentional errors (to stop copyright violation). They are also based on interpretation rather than the map producer driving the physical roads.

One map maker may provide maps to multiple engine providers.

I'm still working out which engine is best (Destinator vs CoPilot vs Route 66 vs Nokia Maps). I do know that the last batch of Sensis maps (mid-2007?) for where I live leave a *lot* to be desired.

My biggest disappointment with these systems is their poor support for waypoint planning and use of other maps (for example, using a topo map to get off the beaten track and back again). It is also burdensome to download track data to show the friends on Google Earth. So far I've found Oziexplorer on my PPC to be the best tool for this sort of thing.

Hope this quite unstructured ramble helps.

Best wishes to all.

PS: Anyone had a look at the Dualis yet?
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Thanks for your input mate, you seem to be lost as me and trying to find the answers LOL emoticon

After driving around with the Tevion (aldi) GPS for a while, I decided to give it the flick, it is just not upto scratch at all and the routes it suggests are long and complicated and it is VERY slow in picking-up satellites and calculating the distance, also very slow in self adjusting itself to set a new route.

I guess I shouldn't have expected much for $229

The Whereis maps it has are way outdated and don't capture some roundabouts. It also directs me to turn left off the highway and when I looked at what was there, it was nothing but bush LOL emoticon

The device is advertised to alert me of fixed speed cameras and red light cameras, but I didn't experience any of these alerts at all, it is simply bombarding me with BEWARE alerts at every set of lights.

Today I have decided to grab another GPS device and I have chosen the 330

Forced D. Smith to match an internet price of $299 while they had it for sale for $399

It has the Route66 maps, so am gonna test them in the coming weeks to see if it is any better than the Whereis version.

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My Navman likes King Georges Rd too. I have it set on shortest route all the time, and not fastest route, as fastest route generally means it'll select a road that has a higher speed limit over one with a slower speed limit.

As an example, I had it set on "fastest route" and "avoid tolls" and it wanted me to turn left onto King Georges Rd (I was on Stoney Creek Rd heading towards the city) and I ignored it and continued straight ahead. It immediately re-calculated the route (less than 30 seconds after it realised I hadn't turned) and in fact knocked a few kilometres off the "remaining distance to destination". The ETA was also shorter - so much for "fastest route" being the better option!


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Hi Rich,
What model Navman do you have?
I have read my manual Navman, now a S90i, and it tells me that picking the fastest time, is in fact, only picking up the GPS satellites quicker, hence the directions are based on a very quick look at the maps, where as, picking the shortest time, takes longer to access Satellites, then gives a much better driving street addresses and better ways to get there. I had a S80, but had untold trouble trying to fit it onto the cradle, went back to the suppliers, paid extra $[sign in to see URL] and got the S90i, Very satisfied with this unit connection wise to cradle, only problem I have of directions is that my house is on the left according to unit, "emailed" whereis and was told due to (geocaching or some such s**t) not every address is correctly aligned, but based on the several examples I gave, will be fixed in the new upgrade next year.
Depending on your model number, did you know that you can take a digital photo, download a FREE program that puts the Lat/Long on the photo, download photo to a sd card & put into your nav unit, then drive to that destination.
PM me if you want the name of the program. emoticon

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Hi, I have both Tom Tom 910 and recently acquired Route 66 that I installed tomy exy, they both very good,I have no problem with both ,I would say they have different features that enjoy using,for Tom Tom I can fiddle around with it,install different voices that keeps me awake on a long drive, had 20 Gb hard drive that you can install sideshow, music etc. but updating it will cost a fair bit(updating is only for one unit cannot be shared) unlike Route 66 can be manipulated as well but to certain extent(haven't fiddle around with it as yet ) I did installed speed camera, black spot ,red light school zone etc, which didn't come with the unit. and the best thing about Route 66 you can share the update to others that makes it cheaper to buy (of course we have to chip in )I like Route 66 because it came with 7 in. monitor
that make it easier to see, having said that I still feel that TomTom is the best for the reason that it comes with a lot features specially the new 720 and soon to be released 920 [sign in to see URL] those contemplating to buy one wait for the TomTom 920 you will not regret [sign in to see URL] check TomTom forum and Route 66 forum for more information.
Now I have to sell my original Ti radio.

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Thanks Ceasar,

Can you please point me in the right direction where I can download the speed and red cameras to my Route 66? Am using the NOKIA 330

I looked at the TomTom and Navman in the same price range as the NOKIA, but to me they all looked the same with the last 2 brands being over-priced and didn't have the MP3, Video and Photo display capability.

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What model Navman do you have?
 



Mine's a freebie thrown in when I bought a new phone from Strathfield Car Radios - it's a "reconditioned" Navman ICN-330N - no camera option; only a 32MB memory card to store locations. It's a pretty basic model, and I too have noticed it giving the wrong side of the street for some addresses.


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Hi Rich,
If you can store locations, can you get directions to go to those locations?


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As far as I know I can only retrieve a previously-stored location, and it re-calculates the route to it from where I am when I select it (ie: I can't pick a course between two previously-stored locations, if that's what you mean).

Like I said, it's a bare-bones navigator - I would like something more complex that allows me to mark waypoints, go off-road etc, but this one wont let me do it, although I could save each "waypoint" as a different location, and then keep loading up each location as I reach the destination of the current route.


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