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     Thank you very much. I don't have access to a compression tester but I will try to look for one. The car has only 108,000 kms on the speedo. I got hold of a mechanic who has a spare engine and I might be able to buy spares from him but I cannot buy many items due to limited budget. I recall this happened before-. After driving for a while we stopped at a McDonald's resto then after that it won't start. If you crank it,.it will start for about a second. Everytime you crank it it's like that. It only started when a mechanic cranked and cranked it non stop and black smoke came out.

     Question:.if you put it in clear flood mode, pedal on the floor,. will the throttle plate fully open?

     
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     I forgot to add: sometimes when it won't start in Park I put it in neutral and it runs.
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With engine control modules these days, the need to press the accelerator pedal when starting is not recommended.

Can you always start the engine when the transmission is in neutral ?
If you can then there could be a fault in the park/neutral switch but I would expect the starter motor not to turn over either.

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     Thank you, I only do that if it won't start at Park haven't tried starting in neutral first.
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     Good news! Our xtrail finally started! Another mechanic replaced the throttle body with a surplus one and it started with black smoke coming out. But the idle was erratic, very high then I very low. I was disappointed so he put the old one back. He thought of tapping the throttle body a little,. then it fired up smoothly. Now I need to find someone to lower the idle! It's 1400 rpm now. Thank you for your help!
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You can do an idle relearn yourself using the procedures in this guide
Idle Relearn Guide
Make sure your aircon is switched off and the engine is at normal operating temp before starting this procedure.

You will know that it has done the idle relearn properly because the engine will slowly decrease rpm until it nearly stalls and then increase again back to the correct rpm and stay there.
DO NOT turn off the engine until this process has finished.
If it does not do this process then start from the beginning of the steps again.

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     Thanks again, I also wanted to ask:. If I downloaded a Consult III software on my windows laptop, will I be able to connect to the car using a regular ELM 327 Bluetooth connector?
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Depends on the software and the compatability of the connector with our OBDII system.
Some chipsets work, others don't.

Search the forum for OBDII readers and you'll find a thread somewhere about it where the exact protocol you'll need will be listed.

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     Thanks again. I performed the relearn procedure, got the MIL to flash but the idle is still high. I guess I will try to make the consult software to work on my windows 7 32 bit laptop. I also downloaded car gauge pro app on my Android phone, got the idle to lower at 700 rpm but only for 3 secs.
      Thank you all you were very helpful!
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When you did the relearn did the idle revs slowly drop to almost stall and then pick up again to around the 750rpm which is normal ?

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