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BPxtrail
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Date Registered: 08-2013
Location: Canberra
TOTAL POSTS: 139
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Re: GPS navigation
G'day Everyone,
For those who own either the 'newer' and/or 'older' Garmin GPS units, "Full Coverage of Australia and New Zealand, Version 2019.10" is now available from the Garmin Express site for download. Meaning all Garmin GPS units with Free Lifetime Map Updates can be upgraded.
Say what? Yep, older units update to 2018.30 was literally only a few days ago, now, you've got update to 2019.10....which raises another interesting point. 2019.10, in 2018? Go figure.
Seems to me to be just like Woolies selling Easter eggs from the start of January.
Last edited by BPxtrail, 26/Jan/2018, 10:56 am
--- 2013 ST, T31 Series 5. Aug, 2013
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26/Jan/2018, 10:04 am
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Wiz Au
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Date Registered: 06-2017
Location: Canberra, ACT
TOTAL POSTS: 185
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Re: GPS navigation
Firstly, yes, you are wrong
My GPS is a Garmin Zumo660 for car and off road motorcycle use in remote areas. I run 3 different maps on it and looking at a 4th. (Garmin City Navigator 3D, Garmin Topo and Shonky Topo, getting OzTopo). These maps do not get their data from Google. In fact OzTopo say their data is from: "Map Data Services, Geoscience Australia, RMS (NSW), PSMA & many others".
Andriod with Google maps does not have the resolution or topographic map quality 1:25,000, I need for off-road navigation on the bike or in the 4WD, and cannot load the Government overlays I need for my National Parks works. It would also require me to dowload all the map segments in the different resolutions I would need before I go as I am out of mobile cellular data range quite a lot. This is risky as if I dont get that right I could find myself 'mapless'. Tracks and routes are all Garmin GPX format as standard, not Google KMX which in my experience is a bit dodgy.
Andriod with Google maps has its uses, but off road remote areas is not one of them. I can't see Garmin 'windscreen' GPS units being replaced with Andriod devices and Google maps in remote areas with no reliable mobile data coverage where high map resolution is required.
Tablets, both IOS and Android, with MudMaps or OziExplorer GPS application, (+ external bluetooth GPS puck for high accuracy) and OzTopo maps is the 'go-to' product for most 4WD clubs. In dash units do not seem 'flexible' enough yet, but may in the future.
Personally, I dont like HEMA maps. Not high res enough. 1:250,000 sucks in a forest.
Last edited by Wiz Au, 4/Feb/2018, 9:22 pm
--- 2004 T30 series II, Ti (now sold)
JRR50 Pathfinder, QD32ETi Turbo Diesel, with 'lots o fruit'.
2012 Jeep Cherokee KK CRD Limited is current ride.
Will be looking for a white or silver 2011-2013 T31 TL (Diesel) to "pimp out".
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4/Feb/2018, 9:11 pm
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Wiz Au
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Date Registered: 06-2017
Location: Canberra, ACT
TOTAL POSTS: 185
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Re: GPS navigation
I would recheck your information that a Nuvi 1350 has "Lifetime Maps".
"Garmin uses Whereis maps on the nuvi 1350"
I suspect these are not in the "Lifetime Map" update plans, and this persons experience is similar:
I bought this in 2011 to replace an old MioTech digiwalker... lifetime maps it said on the box. Sadly nothing but a lie.
I have used the GPS many times and love it as a GPS, but I recently tried to update the maps using the lifetime upgrade - didn't work. Contacted customer service, oh, no that's not compatible, you should've been told that when you registered the product, nope wasn't, well tough you have to buy maps... so I tried, buying the lifetime option, nothing, it refuses to accept maps... contact customer service, hello, no maps working, told oh no, that's not compatible with your device, let us refund you.... great, so tell me which maps I can actually use.... well that was 3 months ago and the tech and his/her supervisor are still "investigating" (read doing nothing) to tell me which maps I can actually buy.
Bit more digging may have revealed that it was a limited time promotion sticker on the box.....
https://www.garmin.com/au/NZLMU_FAQ ("LMU" = Lifetime Map Update)
Q: What are the valid purchase periods for the promotion?
A: The purchase period is from 1st March 2012 – 5pm on 31st December 2012. Claims made with purchases dated outside of this purchase period will be deemed invalid and ineligible for the free update.
Q: Once I’ve bought my product within the valid purchase period, how long do I have to enter the promotion and receive the update?
A: Entries close at 5pm on the 31st January 2012. Claims received after this date will be deemed invalid and ineligible for the free update.
Last edited by Wiz Au, 6/Feb/2018, 6:01 pm
--- 2004 T30 series II, Ti (now sold)
JRR50 Pathfinder, QD32ETi Turbo Diesel, with 'lots o fruit'.
2012 Jeep Cherokee KK CRD Limited is current ride.
Will be looking for a white or silver 2011-2013 T31 TL (Diesel) to "pimp out".
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6/Feb/2018, 5:58 pm
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Wiz Au
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Date Registered: 06-2017
Location: Canberra, ACT
TOTAL POSTS: 185
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Re: GPS navigation
OK, I just spent an hour on the phone to Garmin Support, as no map updates at all were showing for my Zumo 660.
Apparently about a year ago Garmin sent out an 'Automated email' to all registered users advising them that Map Updates for certain model GPS units will be "Discontinued" as Garmin has ceased the contract with the map supplier.
You cannot even get "old" map updates. Whatever is on your device right now, is what you are stuck with for life.
When I started talking about "In Writing" and a complaint to the ACCC, including court action to refund the full cost in court plus court costs (The Zumo cost me nearly $800 just 4 years ago) I was invited to apply for a refund through Garmin but "The outcome cannot be guaranteed".
I am waiting for the email from Garmin so I have all this in writing as without it, I don't have much of a case. And I will also claim the full purchase price of the GPS and the TWO mounts I purchased as they are now useless too.
Very "NOT HAPPY" Garmin!
--- 2004 T30 series II, Ti (now sold)
JRR50 Pathfinder, QD32ETi Turbo Diesel, with 'lots o fruit'.
2012 Jeep Cherokee KK CRD Limited is current ride.
Will be looking for a white or silver 2011-2013 T31 TL (Diesel) to "pimp out".
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