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Date Registered: 10-2011
Location: Darwin, NT
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Secondly, i probably wouldn't doubt that timers are illegal, but until someone posts up a copy from the relevant legislative Act to prove it, people are going to keep arguing about it. Further to this, i could safely say there won't be turbo timer police patrolling local shopping centres looking for unoccupied running cars. Now, or in the near future.
I also don't know why comments are made about car theft with a timer running? if the wiring is spliced into the handbrake, it can't be taken. handbrake down, engine cuts off. If thieves want your car, a timer is irrelevant.



Whitey, ] Australian Design rule 25 requires that the engine must only be able to run when the ignition switch is in the "on" position. The rule goes on to read, verbatim from the Comlaw website:


25.1. FUNCTIONS OF LOCK POSITIONS

[sign in to see URL]. An “engine on” position shall permit the normal functioning of the engine.

[sign in to see URL]. An “engine off” position shall prevent normal functioning of the engine.

[sign in to see URL]. An “anti-theft” position shall prevent normal functioning of the engine and also inhibit unauthorised use of the vehicle.

25.2. DESIGN OF LOCK

[sign in to see URL]. The lock shall be a 5 or more tumbler lock or other lock of ‘Approved' type giving equivalent protection. The probability of the key operating the lock of another vehicle in the same model range shall be not greater than one in one thousand.

[sign in to see URL]. The lock shall provide for at least the functions nominated in Section 25.1

[sign in to see URL]. It shall not be possible to adjust the lock from the “engine on” position to the “anti-theft” position without passing through the "engine off” position

[sign in to see URL]. When the key is removed the lock shall be in the “anti-theft" position

[sign in to see URL]. With the lock in the ”anti-theft" position it shall be impossible either to steer the vehicle, or to engage the forward drive gears, or to release a brake, without removal or destruction of the device.

[sign in to see URL]. Where the requirements of Clause [sign in to see URL] are met by a device which prevents steering of the vehicle, the following additional requirements shall apply:

[sign in to see URL]. It shall not be possible to adjust the lock from the “engine on” position to the "anti-theft" position by a single rotary or linear motion of the key.

[sign in to see URL]. Where the design of the lock to achieve the requirements of Clause [sign in to see URL] embodies 2 or more separate rotary movements of the locking device, adjustment from the “engine off” position to the “anti-theft” position must require either:

[sign in to see URL]. a design linear axial movement of the key of not less than 2 mm; or

[sign in to see URL]. actuation of an additional blocking device separately controlled. The gear selector may constitute such a blocking device.


It is the above design rule that makes turbo timers illegal, because the engine is still running with the ignition switch in the "anti theft" position.

]South Australian vehicle registration website also states that turbo timers are not to be fitted to vehicles manufactured after 1 January 1972. I haven't checked other states but I suspect they are all the same.

Sorry mate, you can fit one if you want (personally I think with this particular turbocharger you're wasting your time), but they are, by the letter of the law, illegal and if discovered in a rego check you won't pass.

Cheers


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maybe you misinterpreted by post.. i never argued the legality of the timer, i definitely said it will be continually argued until someone posts up an act.

been a mechanic for over 15 years mate, i've never had issues passing rego checks.
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Hi everyone,

My name is Andy, long time reader first time poster..

I came across a video on the tube posted by Mighty Car Mods that may shed some light on the situation. Weather or not the situation needs more light or not, it's still interesting to watch.

timer video


 

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Totally agree with Shreks Donkey, I also idle before stopping and try to idle before driving off on a cold morning,

If you do lots of open road driving by the time you get into town, up the drive and unpack the engine has cooled and doesn’t need more idling unless you like the idea of more cleaning of the exhaust system.
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