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Date Registered: 05-2013
Location: Southern River, WA
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X-Trail T30 Hard to start but runs fine


Hi guys,

I have searched and so far not found an answer to my problem. I have a 2006 manual Nissan X-Trail T30 II which has always ran well and having just passed 250k. The last 2 weeks now, I have had a lot of trouble starting the car - it turns over just fine and all the electronics works fine such as radio and air con, but it just needs to crank minimum of twice as long as normal to start, occasionally it hiccups a little on start as well, sometimes takes a few minutes to start. Once running, it idles fine, no power loss, never dies. If I turn the motor off and try to start immediately, it has the same problem, no matter if right away or the next day.

So far, I have replaced the fuel filter (in the tank, the pump seems to work fine and the fuse is fine), the fuel line goes hard when we turn on the ignition, checked the spark plugs, charged the battery and checked the air filter. None of which have changed the operation of the motor. I think I have ruled out fuel as a problem, unless it may be running lean, but I think that would still be electrical, so I think that the problem is something with the ECU or a sensor. I have found people talking about fuel pumps failing and crank and O2 sensors, but all seem to have problem idling, or refuse to start altogether or some other problem, but once mine starts eventually, no problems at all with the running of the car. I have been told to check the O2 sensor and the Crank sensor, but, if I have my information correct, if they are a problem, shouldn't that cause rough running as well as a hard start?

Would anyone have any advice on what I can do next? I'm a little strapped for cash after Christmas, so would prefer DIY before I have to take to a mechanic...

Thank you!

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2006 X-Trail Ti 5spd Manual
50mm Strut Spacers from Superior Engineering
235/70 R16 Toyo Open Country tyres x5
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Alpine double DIN head unit

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Hi Ben,

Replace both the CAM and Crank sensors as they're way overdue for your model. Do a search for CAM and Crank sensor replacement on the forum and you'll many threads showing you how to replace them yourself.

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Date Registered: 05-2013
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Just ran the diagnostic using the accelerator and ignition on and got error code 0335 which is the crank sensor, I didn't search how to do that before as I didn't think it was something I could do without a mechanic. Thanks to this forum! I bought the sensor (I was going to do Cam as well anyway), on special at Repco was over $70 for genuine oem... over $90 on special for aftermarket! I thought these were cheaper, but all good but confirmed that both cam and crank use identical sensor. Now... to fit it. Wish me luck, I'm a big guy with big fingers haha!

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2006 X-Trail Ti 5spd Manual
50mm Strut Spacers from Superior Engineering
235/70 R16 Toyo Open Country tyres x5
Hella spotlights
Alpine double DIN head unit

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Date Registered: 02-2004
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Good stuff mate emoticon

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Date Registered: 05-2013
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Wow... this is very difficult. I cannot get my hand in to actually touch the sensor, I've finally managed to get the bolt out after an hour and using my gopro type camera hooked to my phone via wifi, but the plug is proving very difficult to get out, I've pulled on the lead as hard as I dare to, but looks like I may need leverage. ..

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2006 X-Trail Ti 5spd Manual
50mm Strut Spacers from Superior Engineering
235/70 R16 Toyo Open Country tyres x5
Hella spotlights
Alpine double DIN head unit

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Date Registered: 05-2013
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Am I missing something or should this just pull out easily?

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50mm Strut Spacers from Superior Engineering
235/70 R16 Toyo Open Country tyres x5
Hella spotlights
Alpine double DIN head unit

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Date Registered: 05-2013
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Plug eventually wiggled free, seems the rubber seal was still working well, after 45min of wiggling and pulling it came loose and I managed to put the new sensor in. Car fired up right away and is still running smooth. Thank you so much Jalalski for youra assistance, it is much appreciated! !

Also, my check engine light is now gone, without having to do anything to it

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2006 X-Trail Ti 5spd Manual
50mm Strut Spacers from Superior Engineering
235/70 R16 Toyo Open Country tyres x5
Hella spotlights
Alpine double DIN head unit

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