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Date Registered: 12-2011
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Anyone know of a LT construction 225/65/17?



Nope unfortunately. You'll have to drop to 16" for anything in LT.

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bruceman4I,ve been told by other Xtrail drivers that 235/65/r17 will fit on t31...
235/70/r16 is 5.7mm smaller in circumference than 235/65/r17
does having a lift increase the size of the wheel arches?
I,m assuming having a spare tyre with a different size (215/60/r17) would void insurance claims?



Size of the wheel arches does not increase with lift. It's best to have a full size spare when out bush anyway.

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Date Registered: 03-2012
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Anyone know of a LT construction 225/65/17?


Nope unfortunately. You'll have to drop to 16" for anything in LT.

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bruceman4I,ve been told by other Xtrail drivers that 235/65/r17 will fit on t31...
235/70/r16 is 5.7mm smaller in circumference than 235/65/r17
does having a lift increase the size of the wheel arches?
I,m assuming having a spare tyre with a different size (215/60/r17) would void insurance claims?


Size of the wheel arches does not increase with lift. It's best to have a full size spare when out bush anyway.



Pretty sure Todd had Bridgestone Duelers (D694LT) in 225/65/17 on his T31? Dropping to 16" can only really be beneficial on a car this size though, so that's definitely not bad advice. I may be wrong about Todd's tyres being LT though? my memory isn't so great!

Also, the above advice regarding full size spare is true, but also be aware that driving with two different size tyres on the same axle will generate binding within the diff, which could do some serious damage to your driveline. It's never a good idea to run different size wheels(particularly on a 4wd) unless in an emergency situation and for as little as possible.

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Date Registered: 12-2011
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Pretty sure Todd had Bridgestone Duelers (D694LT) in 225/65/17 on his T31? Dropping to 16" can only really be beneficial on a car this size though, so that's definitely not bad advice. I may be wrong about Todd's tyres being LT though? my memory isn't so great!




Just checked Bridgestone's website. Noting in LT for 225/65/17. I was looking for LT tyres too before but this size is not common and it's probably not cost effective to manufacture LT tyres in this size since it's only limited to certain vehicles. I don't remember what Todd had on too.

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Also, the above advice regarding full size spare is true, but also be aware that driving with two different size tyres on the same axle will generate binding within the diff, which could do some serious damage to your driveline. It's never a good idea to run different size wheels(particularly on a 4wd) unless in an emergency situation and for as little as possible.


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Date Registered: 08-2012
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So I've come down to a few options. To play with, I have 4x17" alloys, 1x17" steel, 4x16" steels and the space saver spare, which looks the right thickness to put a normal tyre on.

still not sure, but i thought it'd let others know whats available.

1) 17" Alloys - keep stock, get Cooper CS5's as I do about 90% highway KMs between Canberra and Sydney and a few dirt tracks to get in/out of camp sites... I'm a bit scared to go 4WD'ing, after spending over $3k for a new DMF clutch. I'm more interested in touring and exploring, than outright 4WD'ing.

2) 17" Alloys - keep stock, get Yokahama GO12s. I travelled around Aus on these, and a capable tyre - but gosh do they wear quickly. Won't get 12 months of out them (I do about 50,000kms per year in the x-trail). I have an untouched spare GO12 in the boot.

3) 17" Alloys - go up to 225/65/17, get Bridgestone D697s. Not LT, but a hardy tyre and should be stronger than the GO12's. A little more aggressive than the GO12, but then I also have to deal with a deflated tyre in the boot (requiring a compressor on hand).

4) 16" steel - LT 235/70/16 in Bridgestone D697. LT construction, and will just squeeze in (although will need to redo the spring lift on the front, as the petrol springs have sagged under the diesel engine. I now have HD shocks, so diesel springs should last a while.

5) 16" steel - non LT D697: so either 225/70 or 215/70

6) 16" steel - Cooper AT3 (non-LT) - 215/225/235 in 70 profile. Wouldn't bother with 235, as I could get LT in D697.

7) 17" Alloy - not sure on this one, as its a profile that hasn't been mentioned often: 235/60/17. they are available in Cooper AT3. OD is only 719mm, so well within fitting. Width shouldn't be a problem, as I had 235/70/16 for a while.

8) 16" steel - BFG A/T KO - comes in LT for 215/225/235 70 Profile, so 225 might be a nice medium. But not sure what the performance of the KO's are in road/wet conditions.

So... TL;DR
My main decision thinking is:
If laying off the 4WD'ing, just touring back country dirt roads, the odd bit of 4WD and mud, but nothing too crazy (I'll wait till i'm allowed to buy a Jimny in 18 months), then go the CS5's. Spare will fit in the boot, harder, longer lasting compound and nice and quiet (I drive 97kms to work... each way)

If wanting to do light 4WD'ing, then go to 16" and get some LT 697's in 235/70/16, or heavy 4WD'ing look at the BFG options.. 235/70/16 Could be 'slightly' illegal on an ACT registered car (as we're still applying the older VSB14 section LS... but i could argue that we should be allowed a 50mm increase, rather than 15mm increase.

If wanting a mixed touring tyre, and keep the alloy look, the AT3 235/60/17...

Bah... decisions!

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Date Registered: 12-2013
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I have a similar set up to Konazz by the looks of things.

I've done 90% of my 20,000km driving on 235/70R16 697s and they've been great for me.
No issues scrubbing, but I do have a Pedders Kit so that might help.

Only driven off-road a few times; mainly dirt with one or two actual 4WD tracks, and one weekend at rainbow beach to Inskip point.

I would recommend LT for its extra durability. Not just during low tyre pressure, but for the extra plys that will prevent puncture I believe that would be totally worth it. I know a fellow Xtrailer owner who used the 694s previously on a fleet of vehicles the company he worked for used. No problems at all, and he currently runs the 697s on his vehicles.

Never heard a bad thing about them, but I guess what you buy is totally up to you.
Just my input.

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The BFG's are a solid choice, there is a reason you see so many of them on Landcruisers and Patrols. That said they are on the more expensive side.

Funnily enough I used them as road/daily tyres on my Patrol, they never went off road.

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Date Registered: 08-2012
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Yep. Decided on getting BFG A/T KO in 215/70/16 or 225/70/16... Not going all the way to 235/70/16 this time around. Hoping 225/70 will fit in the wheel well, otherwise I'll be putting 215/70 so they fit in the wheel well (can't be bothered carrying a compressor).

I would've gone the D697 but they're not LT.

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Date Registered: 01-2009
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I,ve been told by other Xtrail drivers that 235/65/r17 will fit on t31...



I just came back from tire workshop trying to mount 235/65/R17 under stock T31 (2.0 Dci, production 2014).
Tires I was trying to fit were Uniroyal rallye 4x4 street

Link to manuf. site

according to Uniroyal technical spec. this tire is 750mm in diameter on 7J rim.
here in Poland other T31 users reported that max diameter for T31 is 737mm (but do not know if that was calculated or measured).

Unfortunately Uniroyal 235/65/R17 was too big for T31 X-Trail. I was able to fit it, but there were maybe 3mm left when wheel was at maximum turn, and it would definitely rub and could be a serious problem when driving off-road (it seamed it will destroy that plastic inner wheel arch when wheel will move upwards).

At present I am using winter tires Nokian WR SUV 3 235/60/R17 106H and they are ok - no rubbing at all. You can also fit thin (10mm) snow chains on back wheels (I did not tried front ones).

will buy Yokohama Geolandar G051 235/60/R17 in two days as my summer tires, and will report how they fit.


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G'day all,
I've been reading through this thread for ages but can't seem to find what I'm after. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction or help me out. I have a 2013 T31 TL with 225/55 R18 that come stock. Has anyone thrown AT tyres on these stock alloy rims? Or am I going to have to buy different rims to fit new AT shoes on??? I'm a bit hesitant to replace the rims is all.
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Date Registered: 08-2012
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If you're going to do 4WD'ing or long distance touring, invest in some steel 16"s.

There isn't much choice in the 18"s, and also the thin sidewall can cause issues (I've torn 2 x 17" Yokohama Geolanders on the sidewall... so I'm definitely getting LT construction this time around). Just change the tyre over if you're going out for the weekend. by 4 stands, lift the whole car up, and change all 4 if you've got a impact driver. About 10-15 mins all up.

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